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Mark Berman: Astros offering Carlos Correa a 5 year/160 million dollar contract

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by DaBeard, Nov 6, 2021.

  1. Nook

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    Perhaps, although I am not entirely certain of it being easier. Also though, last year there was a lot more unknowns and uncertainties and that is something that Crane and the Astros obviously are not comfortable with. You can see it in the contract lengths and dollars that the Astros have spent since Crane has bought the team. You can also tell by the men that Crane has hired as general managers of team. Both are shrewd and tend to look for alternative means to ensure limited long term exposure.
     
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    Should be, I agree. But Dusty loves his lefties and Switch hitters. He can hang his hat on good SacFly numbers.
     
  3. Marshall Bryant

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    Book value of sports team are positively affected by the lowering interest rates for the last 40 years. Let's see what happens when the Rate of Return starts looking poor. Same with metals and crypto.
     
  4. Joe Joe

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    I get last year having more uncertainty. Though, I think it is easy to know that Correa is going to get at least $50M more this year than he would have accepted last year.
     
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    The records are either not real or releasing the records constitutes malpractice.
     
  6. Marshall Bryant

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    Of course. He had his second healthy season out of 7. Ne's only averaging 3/4 of a season in PA, but he's outstanding when he does play.
     
  7. Nook

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    There is no question that coming off an 8 WAR season and having been healthy, that his value is higher. However I don't know what number Correa's camp communicated to Crane/Click last season. It was obvious that the Astros were willing to risk his value increasing against the possible lost value on return had he been injured again.

    I still am agnostic on resigning Correa. I could see him go on a 5 year streak of being a 6-9 WAR a season player, but I also could see him averaging 100 games a season and his power slipping. There is just a lot of unknowns.
     
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  8. bobrek

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    You've said that before. He had 2 SFs last year.
     
  9. BigM

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    Crane likes and trusts his GM, just thinks he’s a bit “conservative” at times. The Astros have a nice balance where Jim will step in on the big ones if he feels strongly about it. Crane likes Correa but this isn’t like the Verlander relationship. That’s his guy.
     
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    Altuve’s his guy… Bregman will likely be his guy if he bounces back… and he’s trying to secure Correa as one of his guys.

    Seems like he values the best players on the team. Shocking!

    But like @Major said above, what Crane is valuing in these players goes beyond simply baseball analytics. Its also his money. Lastly GM’s coming from small market teams are inherently wired to be conservative and not be enamored by big (costly) names… but eventually once they have a owner willing to spend, you get the best of both worlds (and you hope you don’t have too many splurge signings like Baez).
     
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    Crane is partial to TOTR Starting Pitching. Verlander/Cole/Greinke. But his longest commitments have been to ALtuve and Bregman.
     
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    I think if Correa never had a back injury for two years that the Astros do offer a 10 year contract for a 27 year old SS that is a game changer.
    Astros as well as other teams are afraid Correa’s back plays out at age 32-33, much like Larry Bird and Tracy Mcgrady.
     
  13. jayfree

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    WAR doesn't make a player or money - it's everything and that includes the playoffs. He's been injured but he's showed up to the playoffs every year. .272, 18 HRs, 59 RBIs career playoffs in only 79 games. That's why you'd pay the man his money!
     
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    My point was Correa had a back injury at an early age for two consecutive seasons and that’s why you get articles like that because his past back injuries are in the back of everyone’s mind.

    That’s just a fact, fair or not.

    No back injuries and Correa has already signed a massive 10 year contract with Yankees, Dodgers, ect.
     
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    He’s also played the last two years without the back flare up since they augmented his training regimen. His back injury also did not require surgery unlike others. The Astros know his medicals and are confident he’s worth it for his prime.

    10 year deals are not great for any player. Hell, Springer and Bregman have been more injured the last two years than Correa. The Astros only need to optimize the next 3-5 years and see where they’re at after.
     
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    He may not have missed games in 2020, but it doesn't mean he was injury free. His bat certainly wasn't very good that year. I'm guessing his back wasn't 100% then either
     
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    One of my biggest concerns with Correa is that in order to get and stay on the field he is having to put in a ton of pre-game work with trainers,etc. Basically he is having to do what older players have to do to get on the field. If he gets that mega contract will he be willing to do the same work or is he going to want to enjoy life a little more? Maybe not show up early and spend a couple hours getting treatment every day? I don't know, but that is a concern.
     
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    I understand what you are saying but I have zero concern with that guy. He wants to be great/HOF’er/all timer. I don’t worry one bit about giving him money.
     
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    I agree, I'm all about a 5-6 year contract.
     

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