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Deshaun Trade Packages Part 2

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Shark44, Nov 6, 2021.

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Which trade partner/package do you like best?

  1. MIA: 2022 SF 1st Rd (#12), 2022 2nd Rd (#35), 2023 MIA/SF 1st Rd + 2 Players

    4 vote(s)
    4.4%
  2. CAR: 2022 1st Rd (#15), 2023 1st Rd, 2024 1st Rd, + 3 Players

    23 vote(s)
    25.6%
  3. PHI: 3x 2022 1st Rd (#3 MIA, #10 PHI, #11 IND), 2022 2nd Rd (#42), + 2 Players

    51 vote(s)
    56.7%
  4. WFT: 2022 1st Rd (#7), 2023 1st Rd, 2024 1st Rd, 2022 2nd Rd (#39), + 2 Players

    10 vote(s)
    11.1%
  5. NYG: 2022 1st Rd (#9), 2023 1st Rd, 2024 1st Rd, 2022 2nd Rd (#37), + 2 Players

    7 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. ATL: 2022 1st Rd (#13), 2023 1st Rd, 2024 1st Rd, 2x 2022 2nd Rd (#45 ATL/#56TEN), + 1 player

    8 vote(s)
    8.9%
  7. DEN: 2022 1st Rd (#16), 2023 1st Rd, 2024 1st Rd, 2x 2022 2nd Rd (#48 DEN/#64 LAR), + 1 Player

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  8. NO: 2022 1st Rd (#23), 2023 1st Rd, 2024 1st Rd, 2022 2nd Rd (#55), + 2 Players

    4 vote(s)
    4.4%
  9. Other: Team like Lions, Steelers, Raiders, etc. become viable and can put together a pkg.

    6 vote(s)
    6.7%
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  1. RHU525

    RHU525 Member
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    What does this have to do with race? I didn't say anything about that. All I know was during the election he was accused of sexual assault. So if you voted for him and hate Deshaun you are contradicting your own beliefs.
     
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    :D

    We have a lot of Trumpy Bears who think Deshaun is human trash. #hypocrites

    “Those are…those are just like….those are just allegations against Trump! Not true! He didn’t do it! Women are out to get him!”
    (In the same breath) Watson is absolutely 100% guilty! He’s 100% a sexual predator rapist who should be in prison! He absolutely raped and sexually assaulted 22 women and counting.” (while also demanding 10 first round picks for said “sexual predator rapist”)
    “But but but ALL politicians are dirty and slimy!!1!”

    At least folks like @deb4rockets are consistent and thinks Trump AND Watson are gross, nasty human beings. But he’s in the minority.
     
  3. RHU525

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    Don't think I'm out here calling him a scrub. He's still either first or second best player we've ever had. That just shows how sad our franchise is.
     
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    That's a cop out and a lame excuse, chief. There's bad people in all industries and walks of life. Saying "don't watch football because there might be other sexual predators" is absurd. It sounds like your justification for continuing to root for a person who clearly has done some awful things. You're familiar with "two wrongs don't make a right?" Kraft or any other human being sexual assaulting or harassing another person is unacceptable, and doesn't make what Deshaun did OK. I don't care if they're an NFL player or owner or just some random middle-class person working a 9-5. It's wrong.

    And if I found any person on any team I rooted for did the kinds of things Deshaun was accused of, I would question whether I wanted to continue to support that player and that team. But it doesn't mean I'm going to stop watching the sport completely.
     
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    Over and under on how many prayer emojis from exteammates around the league when the trade happens?


    Any day now, Mulughetta

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    There are quite a few on here that constantly bring up race in defending Watson.
     
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    Yeah, sweet hot take bro :rolleyes:
     
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    Falcons- 80 percent likely
    Saints- 15 percent likely
    Panthers- 5 percent likely
     
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  11. SamCassell

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    To answer your question, I didn't vote for him. I believe his accusers and I believe Watson's. You seek to minimize the bad conduct by both by alleging without any proof that it's common to all men with wealth and power. That's not true. But even if it were, the answer is not to excuse all bad actors - it's to condemn the behavior regardless of who does it. Have a moral backbone.
     
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  12. Puppet Master

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    That's all you need

    10 women, nothing wrong found

    But let these guys tell it, Watson is a monster!! Lol

    Did he cheat on his girlfriend, yes, is he a sex addict? Most likely. now did he molest these women? Nothing shows that he did

    But let these fools keep believing these women so easily. A bunch of simps most likely too
     
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    Look man, I get hating him, and I'm not saying he's absolved of guilt, or that he didn't sexually assault anyone. But the reality is that a grand jury took a giant dump on all of the allegations that he did anything illegal, so while they may have been wrong, it doesn't make a lot of sense to continue persisting that he raped and/or assaulted women.

    Sexual assault is a crime, and he wasn't charged with it. It's just weird that you and others are still doing this.

    I can't stand Deshaun bc of what he did to the city and the organization, but maybe we should chill on continuing to accuse him of crimes.
     
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  14. cmoak1982

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    Nothing the grand jury did or said says he’s innocent. 2 women testified.
    He got off on a technicality and having a good lawyer. I’m not going to believe Watson over 22 women that said he forcefully touched them with his dick.
    That is sexual assault whether there isn’t enough “evidence” to go to criminal charges or not.
     
  15. cmoak1982

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    Also, Watson is rich and famous. The chances of him getting charged were always slim. That doesn’t mean he didn’t sexually assault those women.
    Cosby literally got out of prison on a technicality.
     
  16. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    Y'all, can you not rehash old fights? Today's not the day to bump this thread a bunch of times with nonsense.
     
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    Fair.
    Hoping for good trade. They need to hurry up, be as quick as Watson is to prematurely ejaculate.
     
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    I understand that. Read my post further.

    It also says they didn't have enough evidence to go forward with the charges. You can't accuse someone of committing a crime just bc you want them to be guilty or you don't like their character.

    It's like saying, well how do we KNOW that it ISN'T TRUE!!

    Saying that doesn't actually make it true, it just points out that we can't possibly know for sure. But I'm not the one arguing that he's innocent. You, however, are arguing that he is 100% guilty. And you have no basis for that argument. Literally none.

    Just suck it up, move on, and hope Caserio doesn't **** this trade up by giving him to ATL and not getting Terrell or Pitts back in addition to all the damn draft picks. What a damn travesty that would be.
     
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  19. cmoak1982

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    The last part is straight facts
     
  20. Shark44

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    Damn, I guess we can't separate the legal from the trade package discussion no matter how hard we try.

    BTW, I don't get the Trump vs Watson comparison. If anything, Clinton and Monica is a closer comp. In any case, history is littered with powerful men taking advantage of their positions to abuse both women and men. We're not going to solve this issue here, but we can make a dent by living our lives with character and mentoring our children and those we influence to do the same.
     

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