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Joe Biden's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, May 12, 2021.

  1. Rileydog

    Rileydog Member

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    No. He is the worst president of all time by a mile, but no, I didn’t have a problem with that. I am capable of intellectual honesty (at least I try hard to be intellectually honest).

    so you’re not going to speak on the $800MM in aid or the fed attempting to address inflation? Too hard to approve of anything Biden related?
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Plus, apparently Biden has lowered the price of a barrel of oil 35% in the past week and I haven't heard a thing about that.
     
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  3. basso

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    did you speak of the Middle East peace at the time?
     
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  4. dmoneybangbang

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    Which was just really an Iran vs Arab States + Israel thing.

    On other side, Trump weakened NATO and Pacific alliances against Russia and China. So I would say a net negative.
     
  5. Rocketball

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    I didn’t see anybody say that wasn’t good and give him credit for doing that, though that’s somewhat like being a big part of why a food fight starts at school and then saying well at least I armed the one group being picked on with additional food to take the bullies on…

    Lastly Biden can’t cause any of the inflation, but he can fix it…. Unbelievable!
     
  6. basso

    basso Member
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    Trump was net negative from the day I first heard his name in 1981.

    that wasn't the question.
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    Ah yes the question....

    Facilitating peace between the Arab States and Israel just accelerated the proxy war with Iran in the region.

    Trump vetoes measure to end US involvement in Yemen war

    Israel-Iran conflict escalates to drone war
    Tehran blames Israel for attacking last month one of its bases in the west of Iran, allegedly destroying hundreds of drones.


    Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2022/03/israel-iran-conflict-escalates-drone-war#ixzz7NkdnGoOO
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't think Biden is blameless in regard to the current round of inflation as I think there was too much money put out there with too little means testing in the COVID relief bill. I don't think though he can do much to fix it.

    Consider that the US isn't the only country suffering inflation so that shows that it is a worldwide problem. Energy prices are one of the hardest one's to control as Biden could say tomorrow that oil companies can drill anywhere they want whenever they want and it will still take months before that every get's to the market.
     
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  9. Rileydog

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    I can’t understand your first point, otherwise I would respond.

    Regarding inflation, if I recall my posts correctly, I have said that the greatest causes of inflation are the worldwide pandemic and the resulting supply chain crisis. But I also said that if one wants to attribute some of inflation to too much Covid relief money being passed out, that’s a fair discussion we can have. Biden was in favor of that relief, and as I recall, it was passed on a bipartisan basis. But he was for it, and one can argue it is a cause of inflation.

    I also posted in response to an article posted by Os about monetary policy, and I said something like, we’ll see, this is a real issue that perhaps we can and should discuss. That was a few days ago, before the fed took action.

    So no, I don’t take the position that Biden can’t cause inflation. He can be part of it, albeit a relatively small part, based on the Covid relief dollars. I do my best to be intellectually honest. You can disagree with my views, that’s fine of course. But I don’t think you’ll find a basis for calling me intellectually dishonest.
     
  10. Rileydog

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    if you’d like an interview of me, perhaps we should book a time. But no, I don’t think I did. But I did just give trump credit the second you brought it up.

    Can you do the same with Biden? I doubt it. Your are far too tribal to be that honest.
     
  11. tinman

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    Middle East ?
    Biden can’t tell the Iranians from the Ukrainians
    @Os Trigonum
    Breh
    @basso
     
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    Just checking in to make sure Rileydog is being intellectually honest. Confirmed.
     
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    For many people that have faced devastatingly large medical bills... this is huge.

     
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  15. Space Ghost

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    This is not good news. Its desperation.
     
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    Why can’t it just be a good policy? What makes it not a good thing?
     
  17. Space Ghost

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    The debt doesnt disappear. This is not an altruistic move. Its to remove yet another barrier for for people with high debt to income ratios to take on more debt.

    Did you forget what happened when almost anyone could get a house pre 2008?

    Lets spin it another way. It does nothing to help increase workers wages/income.

    I am not stating there is not a problem. I am stating people are going to get themselves further into debt. It will help some. It will hurt many if they take advantage.
     
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  18. JuanValdez

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    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/03/18...-unpaid-medical-debt-from-credit-reports.html

    The main reason I was ould be wary is that ignoring some kinds of debt might create an inaccurate score and allow people to borrow more than they can handle, causing more debt trouble. However, reading the article I pasted, they are removing medical collections that gave since been paid off. And they say they find that medical debt is not a good indicator of creditworthiness. So I think I'm fine with the change.
     
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  19. leroy

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    @space Ghost…I get what you’re saying, but the bolded above is what I’m focused on.
     
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  20. NewRoxFan

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    Try being someone facing a massive medical bill. My oldest daughter was born with transposition of the great vessels and required an arterial switch operation at day 5. The bills went north of $750,000. We were in California that had a state run program that covered catastrophic health procedures like that; but if we were in another state the cost would have destroyed us financially.
     
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