it’s very, very clear from what you said that Tulsi is a Democrat indeed and even far left on some issues, I completely know that ..yes I have an idea what I’m talking about. It’s not about me having a weird fetish fantasy about her and wishing I could sleep with her as some knuckleheads suggest (yes she is attractive but that is besides the point) but what I see as a Democrat with real ideals from a policy left based stance but ALSO willing to not follow the crowd,…that is also quite clear so you guys on the left wing side of the fence HATE her because she isn’t lockstep with checking all the boxes on what left wingers is suppose to say and think
This is part of the problem with Tucker Carlson and people that believe this garbage, and it is garbage. Of course bio-labs exist in the Ukraine........ there are literally thousands of bio labs in the USA and they are all over the world. Further, for years the WHO and the rest of the world has known that the USA has helped the Ukraine with funding and destruction of waste. Guess what? The WHO and EU also have financially supported these labs. Why? BECAUSE THEY MITIGATE THE RISK The USA has never hid these labs, they are on the embassy website and they were specifically covered under the Biological Threat Program started by the USA over 20 years ago, and in 2005 PUBLICLY the USA and Ukraine Ministry of Public Health joined forces to secure that the labs were safer. We provide funding and technical support. In fact these labs were in the news a couple months ago, BEFORE the invasion. This isn't anything "new", nor is it anything alarming or unethical. In fact Russia has made similar claims in the past that were found to be BASELESS. I have attached below a link of a study that discusses prior investigations and claims made by the Russians against the USA concerning bio-weapons. https://cissm.umd.edu/sites/default...iological weapons use from Putin s Russia.pdf So what has happened is we have conspiracy theory BS, which was on 4-Chan months ago.... that spreads word of mouth amongst some conservatives, Russia is then called out by the US over plans to use chemical weapons...... and then Russia claims the USA has biological weapons in the Ukraine to try and cover for the murder of innocent people caught on video. It would have already died down except Tucker Carlson reports on it, and then Tulsi reports on it...... where there is zero credibility. Then Carlson says "US says there are bio-labs" as if it someone proves his point when all it does is show how poorly he understands the situation OR he knows his viewers will believe it...... when it isn't true and is against the interests of the USA. Russia even went to the UN with their claim.... and no one other than China made any comment in support of Russia and all China said was that any use of bioweapons is serious........ The UN asked for proof and despite claims of 30 networks of biological weapon manufacturing, Russia could produce ZERO proof....... and the UN nations scolded Russia. You are falling for Russian propaganda, and people like Tucker Carlson know it isn't real.... but it drives views and he apparently doesn't care that it causes false panic when this nation should be coming together. You can research everything I have said. The BBC even did an expose on it and concluded that everything was in the open and discussed and consistent with what the USA has said. It is scary to me how many people that claim they are patriots of the USA now suddenly believe a bloody dictator that openly has contempt for the USA, is a known liar and is in the midst of taking over another country and is desperate and will do anything to save himself.
A lot of what she says is indeed true to be honest .. or at least a point of contention (to the wokes)
This post should but sadly won't end the pointless debate over biolabs. It as ridiculous to begin with and is not now nor ever was controversial. There is and always been zero reason for anyone be concerned over biolabs in Ukraine.
Your comrades also sanctioned Hillary Clinton, despite her not being in government for years... Interesting who they didn't sanction...
Russia is the world most important phase I bio-labs ,quite hard to think of any recently approved drugs that was not at least 80% Russian contribution via drugs companies,cheaper and less restriction , Ukraine might wanted to compete for these types of revenues should not be out of ordinary
Okay you are then saying you are actually a Democrat but you vote for and spout right wing propaganda talking points because you want someone who "is willing to not follow the crowd"???? Like what does "not follow the crowd" mean specifically?? Like specifics on positions that matter to voters?? What the hell are you talking about? And no going on FoxNews to talk crap about Hillary Clinton isn't "not following the crowd." It's attention grabbing to an audience she knows hates Hillary Clinton. It's not a substantive position on anything. It's playing people like you for fools. What you are saying would be like Jon Bolton going on MSNBC to talk crap about Trump and then me coming on here to say "You know what... I'd vote for Jon Bolton BECAUSE HE'S NOT FOLLOWING THE CROWD." What a stupid statement that would be. On actually substantive policies the primary difference that Gabbard is "Not Following the Crowd" is on Assad and Vladamir Putin. And sorry... if not having affection for dictators who murder pregnant women by bombing maternity wards and using chemical weapons on your own citizens is "Following the Crowd" count me in as someone who is damn proud to "Follow the Crowd" if "the Crowd" generally does not support murderers.
The only reason to be concerned with Biolabs in Ukraine is because a murderous dictator is bombing them for no damn reason other than grievance. BUT... You know what is more dangerous than bombing Biolabs???.... BOMBING FREAKING CHERNOBYL!!! Where is the Tucker Carlson segment talking about how countries that have nuclear reactors in them need to be invaded and bombed? Why isn't Tulsi's twitter feed putting out videos talking about the dangers of Nuclear facilities and justifying bombing maternity wards because a country has a nuclear power plant?? Like if you are so concerned about Ukraine having biolabs you sure as sh$t should be concerned about them having a nuclear disaster site. However these folks are just idiots... to be honest. This was all started because of a QAnon troll who came up with this idea, and then Russian trolls picked up on the stupidity of people like Roxran and are probably laughing their a$$es of thinking how funny it is how easy these people are to find ANY AND EVERY reason to support Putin politically no matter this guy does.
Hold on a sec lol, @Sweet Lou 4 2 just posted several issues that I can legitimately get behind that Tulsi stated that was beyond the only Russia issue you think is the only thing I’m seeing. She is mentioning what’s happening in several areas: Kamala chosen for her skin and sex , COVID tactics , Biden screwing up as evidence by two eyes logic and polls …thank you Lou for the supportive points btw…what she says makes sense absolutely. and you going on a silly nonsensical tangent about having “affection” for dictators murdering people is beyond reprehensible and blatantly misguided
Someone give dobro his medication pills and safe place stuffed animal. He’s frothing at the mouth and losing it …thanks
THOSE AREN'T POLICY ISSUES Good lord. Those are just hatred for Democrats issues. It's a tactic of not disagreeing with a Democrat on a policy... but just using hyperbole to suggest "I'd do the same thing... BUT BETTER!!" "Biden screwing up".... like what does that mean? What was different from a policy perspective that Tulsi would have done?? Biden pulled out of Afghanistan.... okay.... You know what Tulsi's #1 policy position is???.... PULLING OUT OF FOREIGN WARS. "Silly nonsensical tangent about having "affection for dictators".... I mean.... Tulsi and Tucker Carlson... HAVE AFFECTION FOR DICTATORS.... I mean Tucker Carlson literally hosted his show from Hungary to show support of Orban, and you are obviously showing affection for Tulsi Gabbard today so......Ain't that silly. Does Tulsi not show support for Vladamir Putin by reciting Russian state TV talking points getting her featured constantly in Russia???? Have you not posted here all this afternoon about how much you support her?? If calling a spade a spade, calling water wet, etc. is "reprehensible and blatantly misguided" then I'm glad you think I'm reprehensible and blatantly misguided.
Yeah I know I do need to calm down and stop being upset at people reciting the talking points and pet conspiracy theories of people bombing and murdering pregnant women at maternity wards. It's totally me I know, I'm the one losing it...
Do you understand the point of what I was posting or are you just trying to spin my post to your advantage in a debate?
Some of what she is saying is true, but some of it is lies (or at least heavily biased). There are definitely some lies in what I shared, but that's not really the big issue I have with her. The problem with her is that her social media feed is essentially the conservative right-wing talking points, and that's very odd for a Democrat. There's absolutely nothing in support of Biden. And she continues to go after Clinton who isn't even in politics anymore. In other words - she's playing to her crowd - she's playing to people such as yourself, and that should give you pause. What is she catering to you? Buttering you up? Why was she talking about Biden the war monger and how he was going to take us to war with Putin just a few weeks ago - notice how she just dropped that now that it's clear it's not true, and has instead started bashing him on the sanctions? Notice how she blames NATO and not Russia for the invasion? There's a lot wrong with her if you aren't picking up on it.
Here's the thing about "not following the crowd"...it's a cool and admirable trait when its a rebellion against rules that are intrinsically silly (like not wearing white after Labor Day), intrinsically oppressive (like Republican book banning) or intrinsically cruel (like Republican gay bashing) But when someone is a "free thinker" or "independent" yet ignores basic facts or common decency, they aren't still cool or admirable. It just makes them a contrarian douche. Again, simpletons don't understand this distinction and that's why they so often fall in love with rebels without a clue like Tulsi.
You can look back at the Dem primaries threads and I was pretty loud about calling out her strategy of essentially running against the party as an antagonist (following Trump's playbook from 2016), and outright saying it's actually not a terrible strategy, but for her terrible delivery of the tactic and the dishonesty. I've also said numerous times that it might be a really good idea if Biden's looking like he's going to get blown out in 24 to allow an "outsider" run as the nominee and shake up the process a bit. There's a world at which Tulsi Gabbard is actually really healthy for the party if her outsider take wasn't coming across as so dishonest, downright nasty, and dangerous from a US national security standpoint (Putin/Assad weirdness) I absolutely think there is room for people that "don't follow the crowd" so to speak but Tulsi aint that. It's all hyperbolic disagreements on style & personal attacks and virtually no disagreements on substance and policy... even to the point where she had to endorse Biden in the end because she knows she's not going to change her policy positions which in the end align fairly well. The only substantive policy choices she'll disagree with as always is anything that hurts Putin/Assad's causes which is just bizarre, and usually where Democrat's issue with her starts and stops for damn good reasons.
