1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

The Jalen Green Experience is Coming

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Nov 9, 2021.

  1. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    98,966
    Likes Received:
    48,838
    Usually if you want to make a point, you throw it right past someone or onto the ground. It was Lucas. The soup was likely a reference like you said.

     
  2. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    Ya'll really need to tap the breaks it was one game that is not a sign of being clutch he had a good game down the stretch.

    Are you really still trying to compare him to MJ and Kobe?

    No, it's not rare to see a rookie improve his game during the season they do it all the time, Edwards did it last year.

    You got a lot of hyperbole in this post. one of the all-time drafts?

    Really?
     
  3. DreamR

    DreamR Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2021
    Messages:
    755
    Likes Received:
    2,117
    If that just doesn't happen, shouldn't that tell you that he was never that bad to begin with?
     
  4. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2010
    Messages:
    55,682
    Likes Received:
    43,473
    They weren't denying the stats. They were denying your extrapolated conjecture. You understand the difference right?

    They disagree with the part where you extrapolate that if he reaches his potential, he'll be Corey Brewer or a competent NBA player in a few seasons because either you were trolling then or you have a severe misunderstanding of how 19 year old rookie guards do in the league even the ones who eventually become stars.

    Rookie guards under 20 even the ones who eventually become superstars struggle a lot especially with advanced metrics and especially on crap teams. There are very few guards under 20 who having "winning" advanced stats metrics and quite frankly most of them are probably lower late first round draft picks since they are on better teams that can help with advanced stats.
    When specifically referring to clutch shot making ability Green has shown that he POSSIBLY has that "clutch gene". I can remember even during the part of the season he was struggling he would make big shots. For example the shot he made over AD in one of the earlier Laker games where he did that impressive step back crossover move on AD for the deep three.
     
    #4884 fchowd0311, Mar 10, 2022
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2022
  5. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    19,205
    I really don't understand these kinds of posts.

    For one, a comparison is NOT a declaration. No one is saying Green WILL become MJ/Kobe because of the comparison. And yes, it IS rare for rookies to be doing what Green is doing, especially at 19 - 20 years of age. The reason people bring up Edwards' post-AS break rookie season is because it's such an anomaly. It was considered sort of a one-off phenomenon; until, of course, Green started to replicable that amazing feat.

    Second, people have been spouting similar comparisons with regard to the other rookies and I don't see you harping on them. Where were you attacking all the people who were comparing Mobley and KD?
     
    TriumVirate likes this.
  6. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    That tweet does not say he threw something at Lucas if it was at Lucas I am sure it would have said it.

    Ya'll need to stop.

    And stop acting like everybody was ******** on Green it was Bobby trolling.
     
    Zen Tabak likes this.
  7. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2002
    Messages:
    26,719
    Likes Received:
    14,999
    lol it does happen. A person above just showed you rookie guard stats. You don’t think those stats would show individual games that were bad in the first month and games comparable to what Green had last night? Let me say yeah I’m pretty sure there would be several examples from different players.

    a lot of the metrics you posted are also highly effected by the team a player is on. Green got hurt at the start of an extremely soft part of the schedule. The decent teams the Rockets did play had injuries when we played them.

    Guess what three players are in the bottom 7 of defense box plus/minus? Gordon KPJ and Green.

    Who is last in the league in defensive win shares? Gordon.

    If Green were drafted onto a good defensive team or at least average one would he be where you were posting him. No

    Would be a good individual defensive player no he wouldn’t be that either. The stats you posted and past precedent makes your 1,000 posts on the matter comical though. Along with your faux astonishment that he has improved. As if it is such an outlier that you didn’t look foolish (all the while calling other posters dumb fan girls etc etc blah blah blah.

    You won’t admit any of that though. It’s not within your mental makeup nor message board persona you have cultivated to annoy people.
     
    xtruroyaltyx and Boii like this.
  8. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,497
    Likes Received:
    31,972
    No, because he factually was that bad. It's not even debatable.

    The point is how absolutely rare and special that kind of improvement is this fast.

    The zealots who don't want to admit he was ever bad downplay his accomplishments and it's kind of weird.
     
    hakeem94 likes this.
  9. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    38,093
    Likes Received:
    29,523
    I think KPJ threw food in Cleveland when they gave his locker to someone else. Not sure if it was soup.
     
    daywalker02 likes this.
  10. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    19,205
    [​IMG]
     
  11. Zen Tabak

    Zen Tabak Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    1,320
    Likes Received:
    2,637
    I was making fun of bobby the hate
     
    jiggyfly likes this.
  12. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    What kind of post?

    Comparison or declaration to Kobe and MJ is just crazy no matter what you want to call it.

    It is not rare for a rookie to be doing what he is doing a rookie improves during the year most years especially top 5 picks.

    No people have not been comparing rookies to HOF's I have seen nobody comparing Mobley to KD maybe I missed it but I believe you are just making **** up.

    A one-off phenomenon?

    You really don't know what you are talking about.
     
  13. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    19,205
    Post-AL break, Edwards averaged like 24 points. It was such a rare turnaround that CX promised to drink his own j*zz if Green replicated it. Of course, now that this is a possibility, he's walked back on that for sure.

    If I don't know what I was talking about, you'd have counterexamples. You don't, because you never do.
     
    i3artow i3aller likes this.
  14. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2001
    Messages:
    19,116
    Likes Received:
    20,870
    That was on February 23, 2022

    Jalen Green's stats since 2/23:

    PPG: 21.8
    FG%: 49.6%
    3PT%: 35.9%
    APG: 3.4
    RPG: 3.9


    Anthony Edwards after ASB his rookie year:

    PPG: 23.8
    FG%: 45.4%
    3PT%: 34.9%
    APG: 3.4
    RPG: 5.3
     
  15. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    I am not saying rookies make a leap like Edwards but you proved my point that Green is not doing something amazing.

    And Green is not breaking out like Edwards did so what's your point?
     
  16. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    19,205
    Ohhh, it could be close @CXbby

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    19,205
    As I expected, absolutely nothing from you. So sad.
     
    TriumVirate and i3artow i3aller like this.
  18. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    22,621
    That’s both hilarious and disgusting
     
  19. Icehouse

    Icehouse Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2000
    Messages:
    13,654
    Likes Received:
    4,018
    Amazing that he developed a midrange in the middle of year 1. Westbrook is almost 15 seasons in and still doesn’t have one.
     
    DreamR, hakeem94 and cmoak1982 like this.
  20. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2015
    Messages:
    21,011
    Likes Received:
    16,856
    Let's see how he finishes the year this is 2 weeks.

    I hope he does finish the year strong and all of ya'll can clown me but I still say tap the breaks a bit.
     
    hakeem94 and steddinotayto like this.

Share This Page