If it's our problem, then we shouldn't half ass it. I'm not sure why people want another place to burn like a 20 yr Afghanistan just so that they can sleep like a baby 5,000 miles away.
Thought you were gone from the D&D? Couldn't stay away, eh? I heard from old Floridian folktales that if we don't allow kids to say the word "gay" they will never become it.
We friends like them who needs enemies? I read the Saudis are mad we are not giving them carte blanche on the war in Yemen anymore. We were supposed to be energy independent 10 years ago!
Yes people think stuff like this is just easy and can be done with no consequence. In war that is almost never the case.
I get the frustration. A lot of it comes from seeing the surface-level stuff and don't understand what's all needed to be done. I've seen it plenty in my line of work as well - outsider that haven't a clue what is involved to make something happen. But that's ok and is sometimes good to see outsiders pushing. What I am never okay with is saying it was designed to fail. In this case, the statement was it's immoral or political with no clear evidence for coming to that conclusion.
Nobody said it was easy but blinkin did say that they were 100% behind this move, which was a bald-faced lie - period the end
You keep on saying this and I posted his exact quotes which indicate that Poland is to give the planes directly to Ukraine. You haven't shown that he said he was "100% behind Poland sending the planes to the US"
Except the planes are being transferred out of Poland and there is movement to figure out how to get them to Ukraine. Just because it is taking time and is complicated doesn't mean it's not going to happen.
Dude I'm not trying to play your semantics game so you know if you want to continue talking about semantics then you know you can do that that's fine but I'm not interested in that.
I think the conservatives were right yesterday -- Russia and Ukraine are going to sign off on a plan that says no Ukraine into NATO, Russia gets Crimea and those two republics will be independent. But do the sanctions from Russia come off? I don't know. I just know that war is hell and this war should never have happened.
I hope to God it does happen. But I just don't have much faith in Biden to be honest to do anything that's sensible I don't know who's running Biden but whoever it is is not 100% behind Ukraine that much is for sure.
Talking about semantics is being fuzzy. Being fuzzy is how you get to bad conclusion. I have provided direct quotes and you have provided no quotes. If you don't want to engage further - fine and I'll take that as you don't have a quote and assumed the meaning by yourself.
Neither you nor I know for sure whether it will happen or not. And yes Biden isn't 100% behind Ukraine. We would be at war with Russia now if that was the case. That said the US has still transferred millions in military and other aid to Ukraine. We've given them a lot of Javelin and Stinger missiles which are doing a lot to slow down Russia's advance. The sanctions especially on Russian oils are ones that actually an economic sacrifice on the part of the US. So yes Biden isn't doing everything because that might mean we would be in WWIII right now but that doesn't mean he hasn't done a lot and is doing more for Ukraine.
That would suck, but what choice does Ukraine have? This isn't like fans cheering for the Rockets gut it out for moral victories. Now does the West have the balls to enforce their red lines...even what that means is up for debate. I do know that cutting off Russia each month drives their people deeper into the edge, but it's not like the world can pretend the 11th largest economy just vanished overnight either.
I will stress again that this invasion is less than two weeks old. While the US can project power quickly that doesn't mean it can put in a no fly zone overnight and certainly not mobilize a credible land force. Even in what seem like quick strikes there are still months of planning behind them. For example the Bin Ladin raid. So even if Biden today said that we were going to go to war with Russia to save Ukraine it would still take time before much of a difference could be made.
If Ukraine agrees to the Russian offer I'm not sure there's much the US can do. We could continue to press sanctions but if Ukraine has essentially agreed to surrender terms then Russia could just say they continue to press the attack because Ukraine doesn't have a say in what happens.
It is my opinion that the US and Russia are basically talking to each other about what's acceptable. If Russia told us that you can't send stinger missiles anymore I guarantee you that there wouldn't be no more stinger missiles. We don't know what goes on behind closed doors but I'm pretty sure that the US sending missiles and all this kind of thing was a broker deal between Russia and the United States on what was acceptable. We're going to see tonight when Zeleneky comes out and holds the qorlds feet to the fire what gets said. And also we only get what the government wants us to get on CNN on Fox on any of the networks. I still haven't heard about this Poland thing on CNN yet and I doubt I will.
