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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Mr.Scarface

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    Isn't this the guy Trump tried to strong arm to get dirt on Biden by threatening to withhold those Javelin purchases? The Irony is that NATO is probably giving those Javelins for free or at a HUGE discount.

    Trump is Putin's piss bucket.
     
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  2. basso

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    It's not completely up to the US regarding European affairs..... You complain when the US plays world police then you complain when it doesn't.

    Ukraine not joining NATO was appeasement of Russia but in hindsight Russia was never going to stop taking territory.
     
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  4. basso

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    When did I complain the US hasn't done more of.... whatever.

    Joining NATO is not a cheap sticker applied to your vest for agreeing to be part of the Kool kids klub. There are concessions that need to be made. That and NATO enjoys the Ukraine proxy.
     
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    I cried for the first time last night. I am just so sad about this.
     
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    I can't take your post seriously because the last thing Putin's invasion of Ukraine could be described as is something relatively stupid and little. That one bolded phrase undercuts everything else you wrote.
     
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    Sanctions on Russia oil and gas plus admitting Ukraine to NATO.

    You’re right, it’s a serious commitment. But so is stopping Russian aggression.
     
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    that is huge

     
    #4132 AleksandarN, Mar 5, 2022
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    asymmetrical warfare.

     
  14. basso

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    I appreciate the info Senator, but sometimes I think you talk to much.

    #LooseLIpsSinkShips

     
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    It’s like he is doing this for attention. Any important elections happening in two years? Anyone know?
     
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    At some point we need to call Putin's bluff.

    DD
     
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    A certain side likes to forget this and say Biden is beholden to the Chinese ,Russians, Ukrainians, Sponge Bob SquarePants, and Mickey Mouse.
     
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    no idea whether anyone has linked to this yet or not, but an informed perspective on Ukraine's dwindling options:

    https://patrickarmstrong.ca/2022/03/04/russia-ukraine-2/

    excerpt:

    So far the Russian military operation in Ukraine has been a reconnaissance in force preceded by the destruction of the supplies and headquarters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces by standoff weapons. The object being to suss out where the Ukrainian forces are, to surround them, to check existing Russian intelligence against reality and, at the same time, destroy known headquarters, air and naval assets, supplies and ammunition depots. And, perhaps, there was the hope that the speed and success (Russian/LDPR forces dominated an area of Ukraine about the size of the United Kingdom in the first week) would force an early end (aka recognition of reality).

    At the moment they are readying for the next phase. The long column that so obsessed the “experts” on CNN is the preparation for the next phase. And that is this: “You didn’t get the hint, so now we have to hit you”. The fact that the column has been sitting there indicates that the Russians know they have complete air superiority. Secondly it is a message to the Ukrainian armed forces that it’s over, give up. (And one should never forget that the Russians/Soviets have always been the best at strategic deception, so who knows what’s actually there versus what the images show?)

    As far as I can see they’ve created three cauldrons (encirclements). Probably the most important one is the one around Mariupol where the main concentration of Azov, the principal nazi force, is. Another is being established around the main concentration of the Ukrainian Armed Forces facing LDPR. And there appears to be another developing to the east of Kiev. A super cauldron of all three is visible. The nazis will be exterminated; the ordinary Ukrainian soldier will be allowed to go home. The nightmare question is how many ordinary Ukrainians will be free to choose.
    more at the link
     
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