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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Nook

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    Do I believe in it? I don’t… I stopped formally praying to God a long time ago and I was going to be a Jesuit at one time before changing my mind.

    What I believe is men use God as a justification to defend them doing terrible things. Everyone doing terrible things believes God is on their side and if they kill or rape there is a reason for it. They have to so they can wake up tomorrow.

    This attitude has been around a really long time and it’s scattered in the Old Testament and Koran. The evil acts are justified as being in the interest or supported by God.

    I think that when you are the aggressor and you are raping, pillaging and murdering you need to realize you don’t really give a damn about God but base instincts that we call evil or immoral.

    Having said that, as someone that was willing to dedicate his life to Jesus and humanity and the Church - I had to come to the realization that the Old Testament, part of the Bible that guided my faith, was full of examples justifying terrible acts in the name of a Christian God.

    The New Testament isn’t perfect but is far better…. But the Abrahamic religions portray a God that openly engages in murder and murder is justified as being in the name of God.

    This fact is the largest reason that I am not a priest.
     
  2. Surfguy

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    How accurate are those numbers? Should there be a winky face in there somewhere?
     
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  3. Agent94

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    Ukraine is the second largest country in Europe after Russia. This is why the west is responding much more forcefully than other Russian incursions.
     
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  4. Blatz

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    I was just wondering the same.
     
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  5. Nook

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    We hear about how America was unified going into WWII but it isn’t accurate. Many German Americans liked and supported Hitler, as well as a number of fascist Americans. Many Italian Americans supported Mussolini as well.

    The Nazi sentiment was so strong in the USA that they would sell out Madison Square Garden. Now there were protestors as well, but there were many Americans that openly supported fascist governments in Germany, Italy and Spain.

    Jews in America were very marginalized. In the South, they were very poorly treated by Baptists, Evangelists and the controlling white male establishment. The only group treated worse were blacks.

    In the rest of the country Jews were not viewed as white, not viewed as America because they were not Christian and all the stereotypes in Europe existed in America.

    the United States and the whole world was offered money to take well educated and established Jews by the Germans and no one took them… no one.

    It took Pearl Harbor and controlling the media by FDR just to get enough solidarity to enter WWII.

    After WWII those that believed in absurd conspiracies or supported Mussolini, Hitler or other monsters stopped talking about it for the most part because they risked losing their jobs, social isolation and being UnAmerican by the other 75% of the country. They just shifted to more acceptable things like hating black people, oppressing women and gay people.
     
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    Hard to say. Impressive if in fact they are accurate.
     
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    Sad truth. Color matters to so many.
     
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    Ukraine is the only country in Europe where firearms are not regulated by statute. Everything related to firearms is regulated by Order №622 of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

    Citizens are permitted to own non-fully automatic rifles and shotguns as long as they are stored properly when not in use.

    Handguns are illegal except for target shooting, those who hold concealed carry permits, and handguns awarded for service.[1]Concealed carry licenses are available, but are not normally issued unless a threat to life is present and can be proven.[2]

    A license is required to own firearms, and a citizen may be issued a license if that person:

    • is 25 years of age for rifle ownership, 21 years of age for smoothbore weapon ownership, 18 years of age for cold or pneumatic weapon ownership;
    • has no criminal record;
    • has no history of domestic violence;
    • has no mental illness or history of mental illness;
    • has a good reason (target shooting, hunting, collection).
    Once a license is issued, all guns must be kept unloaded and in a safe.

    Because of the lack of statutes regarding firearm ownership, authorities have great discretion when giving firearm licenses. The president and ministers often give guns to members of the elite, while making it hard for ordinary people to obtain them. It is estimated that more than 50,000 guns have been issued as presents from authorities.[3]

    Gun owners are required by order to renew their licenses and registration of their guns every three years. Failure to comply will result in revocation of the license, as well as confiscation of guns. There is a 10-round magazine limit for rifles. [4]

    Limited categories of citizens like People's Deputies of Ukraine, judges, journalists and some others may own trauma pistols that fire rubber bullets.

    On February 23rd 2022, following the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine and a declaration of a state of emergency the Ukrainian parliament approved a law which gives citizens the right to carry weapons outside their homes for the purpose of self defense [5][6][7]


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_Ukraine#Law
     
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    What if Putin just says, “I thought Ukrainians were being oppressed by a Nazi regime and it turns out their leader is Jewish and they all seem to really love their country. My bad, ya’ll. Got some bad info. This one’s on me.”
     
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  15. DaDakota

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    This is how you take down a dictatorship.

    DD
     
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    We are watching a war of independence in modern ****ing day.

    I so stand with Ukraine, and am so humbled by their fight, that Ukrainian president is the bravest man I've seen in a while: the guy is George Washington in modern days.

    It is unbelievable. If putin were murdered, I would not lose sleep.
     
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    He is an actor lmao, he could be green screening anywhere and put on some Mel Gibson face paint......

    You are so gullible but continue.....
     
  18. DaDakota

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    At least my ignore list can grow with all the idiots trying to be funny while a brutal dictator is killing civilians in a democratic country.

    DD
     
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    Its our GOP old guard like Commodore, Trader, Bsso etc. I wonder what happened to bigtexxx
     
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