Ukraine

His delegation. Doubt he's there in person. About that 10 days... they might not last another 2-3 days.

 

If Putin is really ready to launch nukes well I guess this is the end of the world. I hope someone has some common sense in Russia.

 

https://www.ready.gov/nuclear-explosion

 

Where is the closest nuclear shelter?

 

All you have to do is duck and cover and you'll be fine.

 

@SamFisher still fighting the last war.

 

Yeah we just really don’t know how much left Ukraine’s forces have to give at this point, and how vulnerable they might be with ammo running low.

I also think if I’m Zelensky and I can give Putin an off ramp to potentially “just” give him a slice of land out East and call it a day, and everyone goes home you have to at least see if that’s on the table. If it’s on the table and you can negotiate getting Russian troops out of Ukraine AND back in Moscow and not on the border, you have to consider it.

One things for sure is Ukraine will walk away from this, IF they can walk away from this and rebuild, even if they lose Crimea and part of Donbas for good, Ukraine is going to be a major player on the world scene for a generation. They’ll start building a massive military infrastructure moving forward, and it’ll almost surely be a NATO member.

 

What a genius! Just threaten nuclear war and get everything you want. Too bad Trump didn't think of that.

 

Sardukaur

 

1936 called…

 

Ukraine needs to find a way to make these peace talks work -- if not they better have a shitload of spice.

 

A cease fire will benefit Ukraine. It will give them a chance to get more resources and shore up their defenses. It also makes the Russian military look weak if they can't crush their opposition but have to slow down.

 

And there will be the biggest, baddest joint NATO base built in Eastern Ukraine..

 

Wouldn’t a more apt analogy here be comparing how the US responds to refugees from Mexico and Central America vs how Romania and Poland have responded to Ukrainian refugees.

 

If fighting continues especially if it becomes a guerilla war there will be a lot more refugees. I'm curious to see how Western Europe and even the US will deal with that refugee crisis.

 

I'm listening to Meet the Press and they are discussing what would happen if Putin fires a tactical nuke in Europe. There isn't much that could be done other than trying to deter him.