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The Jalen Green Experience is Coming

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Nov 9, 2021.

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    I’m not the one protesting, you quoted me to goad me after Green had a good game, then realized oops you can’t back up your words.

    Also to be clear, Green doesn’t have to match Edwards numbers to have a successful rest of the season, that would be moving the goal posts, something that I’m not the one who is doing, the zealots were the ones who suggested it, I simply dared to disagree. I’ll be happy with Green if he can just keep up his recent play.
     
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    Oh do shut up, you're such a whiny ass b**** man, geeeeeeeeeeze.
     
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    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    Yes they are very mad. So mad that they have to @ me after every good game instead of being happy. “Being right” is more important to them than Green doing well. Oh the irony.
     
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    Edwards streak is not reflective of his normal efficiency. He is sub 55% TS this year on less ppg so far, which are still great numbers too. He still takes a ton of ill advised shots on iso's. I personally don't think these are shots Green should be taking anyway no matter how he develops. It's just happens that during Edwards streak he was able to make a lot of shots that are considered inefficient and he was hot from 3.

    Theoretically if Green can continue catching fire and shoot a ton of pull up 3's/jumpers, he has a chance of matching the Edwards PPG. But I don't think it's the right way to play the game, and yes his efficiency would go way down.

    I just personally don't rate Edwards style of play, I like his confidence and attitude, but I don't like his shot selection and he doesn't always play to his strength.
     
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    First of all, in the posts that I saw, people were optimistically pointing out that Edwards had a shaky start and strong finish insinuating that Green was capable of doing the same and that it was crazy to give up on him because of a rocky start. I saw no such claims, but if they indeed exist, anybody saying Green’s stats would equal or surpass Edwards obviously didn’t consider the differences in their roles on each respective team. Situations and roles matter. You see it all the time on the NBA.

    If you put the ball in JG’s hands and give him the green light to be the number 1 option on the team and put up 20 shots every night on average he would certainly score 24 points per game. That’s just not going to happen. His assists would go up too because his usage would go up and that’s just common sense. Rebounding is something he seems to have interest in doing some games more than others so I don’t know about that, but I think naturally when guys are more involved on offense, they tend to be more active on the other end as well.

    At the end of the day. If his role stays as is. If his final stats at the end of the season are around 17 points, 3 rebounds and 3 assists on 54% TS, that is a good rookie season for Jalen considering how raw he came in. Those stats would also be better than most other rookie seasons of guys we compare him to.
     
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    Noticed this too, it’s like he has those games marked on his calendar
     
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    They WANT to melt down
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Edwards and Green are not similar, yet they do share a similar trajectory. Green takes way smarter shots now, he's focused on getting to the rim or hitting the 3. Other than that, he'd rather pass it to an open teammate. That's a great formula for being consistently efficient in the long term for a SG.
     
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    As much as I don’t like it and would prefer they just give him the ball and turn him loose and then try to reign him back in somewhere down the road after he’s already spread his wings and tested his abilities, you can make the argument that they are trying to teach him how to play the “right” way. Teach him to share the ball and play within the confines of a structured offense. I’m not a fan of the offense, but that is certainly an argument you can make.
     
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    It is circle jerking..... Edwards, Mobley, Cade and eventually Green are having up and downs.

    His Usage rate was already 5th among rookies (I think Zeeshan2 posted it)
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    What's the point though, all we would is discover is that he can do it but he should improve his shooting, finishing and handle. Better to use the time to accelerate his development. It's looking like he may have the biggest 1st/2nd half turnaround, which is a sign of rapid development. We can let him loose end of season or late next season, no rush imo as long as he's getting shots and spacing.
     
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    not planning on it LOL its perfect
     
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    This is just a philosophical difference I suppose. I’d compare it to the age old question, do you start your highly drafted rookie quarterback and let him learn by playing and through his mistakes, or do you sit him a year and let him develop slowly and not risk developing bad habits or hurting his confidence? Both methods have proven to be successful and also fail lol. Depends on the player at the end of the day and coaching.

    I personally think putting the ball in his hands would accelerate his development. He wouldn’t be worried about shooting 4-16 or making a risky pass and turning the ball over with the coaching staff backing him. All guards have bad shooting nights and high turnover games. Cunningham and Giddey included. It’s just part of the learning process as you test what works and doesn’t work. I don’t feel like he’s testing his boundaries very much right now. He’s very conservative and passive in some situations because he doesn’t want to make a mistake so he passes it to a teammate.
     
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    Once he masters that first step to get by the defender, you won't be able to stop him from getting to the rim. He is electric
     
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    You never really made a bet more so than a proclamation.

    You made a bet with yourself to swallow your own jiizz as a way to show confidence in your beliefs. Your already backtracking saying someone had to match your stupid?
     
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    Kind of crazy to imagine him with that speed and leaping ability with a stronger body and a better handle. Both those things are attainable for him with some good old fashioned hard work. He’s going to be scary just doing those 2 things. Jalen Green with 10-15 pounds of strength and muscle and a tighter handle is a problem. I honestly don’t know who his current comparison would be in NBA right now if those 2 things happen. He’d be a 1 of 1. Long way to go though unfortunately.
     
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    That was a joke, no way he produces enough of it to swallow in an instant.......Preparation is key.;)
     

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