So what are we supposed to say then when the leader of the GOP praises Putin, and has been impeached for blackmailing Zelensky by withholding javelins that are key to this war? What are we supposed to say when the leading media voice on the right is being broadcast wall to wall on Russian state TV reciting pro Putin talking points? What are we supposed to say when members of the GOP in Congress are JUST LAST standing on stage with a white nationalist who leads a crowd in a “Putin, Putin, Putin” chant? Like you tell me dude. You don’t like being called a Russian stooge I’m sure and if someone called you that then maybe you don’t deserve that personally but I don’t know what kind of response you think you’ll get when your party leaders are literally holding “Putin, Putin, Putin” chants and people are supposed to give the party the benefit of the doubt that it is NOT pro Putin. So you tell me. Why are we supposed to see “Putin Putin Putin” chants and think you are NOT pro Putin??
Plenty of nationalism expressed in response to Jan 6th attack against Congress. I don’t think many are against citizen’s right to bear arms when your country is being invaded by hostile foreign forces.
Not to answer for whomever you're conversing with, but ... I think in the face of all that, we're supposed to just complain about Biden and agree that what we need to do is restrict voting rights and open up a broader interpretation of the 2nd amendment. What do I win?
Incredible cognitive dissonance. They gave him warning after warning until his minions literally invaded the capitol.
Lol can we keep this thread for Ukrainian news - so much unnecessary left/right wing switch going on. BTW - vacation incoming, enjoy your break from the board.
Seems he lost two early bets. He lost the propaganda war to shield him. War is always messy but with his propaganda fully exposed, it hasn't been so clear to the world what this is. China abstains from being associated with that evil. His useful idiots here in the US have to make a quick 180 turn. His image and reputation are never going to recover aboard or even at home. I wonder if he even has room to come to his senses. Feels like there is no turning back from this for Putin's Russia. He bet on overrunning Ukraine quickly. The idea that it might even hold is shocking. Seems he's going to be bogged down in an extended costly insurgency war. The only sense I hope he still has is not to kill millions.
Interesring article, but the “leftists” it is referring to (anti-imperialist, socialist types) and the American Left that TraderJoe was referring to (establishment liberals, political/media elites) aren’t the same.
The feeling I get out of the PRC is that Xi finds Putin useful but doesn’t want to be associated with a loser
From the establishment left periodical, "The Hill". Of course this will be easily understandable to anyone who is not a numbskull. 62 percent of voters say Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump were president A majority of American voters say that Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine had former President Trump still been in office, according to a new survey released on Friday. A new Harvard Center for American Political Studies (CAPS)-Harris Poll survey released Friday found that 62 percent of those polled believed Putin would not be moving against Ukraine if Trump had been president. When looking strictly at the answers of Democrats and Republicans, 85 percent of Republicans and 38 percent of Democrats answered this way. However, 38 percent of all Americans polled believed that Putin would have invaded Ukraine even if Trump had been president. A majority of Americans polled — 59 percent — also said they believed that the Russian president moved on Ukraine because Putin saw weakness in President Biden, while 41 percent said that it was not a factor in Putin’s decision to invade Ukraine.
There was no "pledge", only a statement that the US wouldn't stop communicating with Russia on items such as Iran's nuclear program. They way it was phrased, "the state department pledged to keep working..." is very misleading
You can't cry about high energy prices / inflation in one post and than cry that we aren't putting sanctions in place that will drive up prices in another. Make up your effing mind already - which one do you want?
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/0...-but-they-face-stiff-resistance-pentagon-says WASHINGTON — A majority of the more than 150,000 Russian forces massed against Ukraine are now fighting in the country, but those troops are “increasingly frustrated by their lack of momentum” as they face stiff Ukrainian resistance, especially in the country’s north, a senior Pentagon official said on Saturday. The Defense Department said on Friday that one-third of Russia’s combat power was in the fight, but Moscow has since poured thousands of more troops into the country along three main columns in the north and south, expending more fuel and logistics than it anticipated this early in the all-out assault, according to the Pentagon official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the operational developments. Despite now having more than half of its combat power inside Ukraine, Russian troops still do not control any cities, although they are closing in on the capital Kyiv and other urban centers, the official said. Nor do Russian warplanes fully control the skies over Ukraine, as Ukrainian fighter jets and air defenses continue to engage Russian forces. The Russian attack from the air, land and sea is fast-moving and extremely fluid, however, and despite the Ukrainian resistance, particularly around Kyiv and Kharkiv, a city in the northeast, most American and Western analysts expect the outgunned Ukrainian military to succumb to the larger and more technologically advanced Russian military in the coming days. Indeed, special operation commandos and other Russian reconnaissance forces have moved into Kyiv, some carrying what American officials say are lists of prominent Ukrainian politicians, academics, journalists to capture or kill, U.S. officials have said. Since the invasion began early on Thursday, Russia has also launched more than 250 missiles, mostly short-range ballistic types, some of which have hit residential areas, the Pentagon official said. American officials say they are joining European allies in continuing to send arms and equipment shipments into Ukraine. The Pentagon said in a statement on Saturday that an additional $350 million in military assistance to Ukraine that the White House announced late Friday would include Javelin anti-tank missiles as well as small arms and munitions, body armor and other equipment. American officials said the arms would be drawn from existing Pentagon stockpiles, most likely in Germany, and shipped to Ukraine as soon as possible, probably over land from Poland, given the contested air space over Ukraine. The senior Pentagon official said that arms and supplies from a previous tranche approved in December had arrived in recent days.
I'd be interested in seeing research around it. At the very least, social media is influencing people's opinions on a broader scale than the tweets and retweets would indicate. I think what happens is that influencers spread messages they receive on social media to other people in their community. But I also think that people are directly sharing social media to their own social media feeds and influencing people that way. It's why people don't see the other point of view of a political spectrum (a problem on the left not just the right) and thus the infamous "echo chamber" What you see here in clutch fans is an interesting product of our modern times and influence of social media - the right's echo chamber smashing into the left's echo chamber and a bunch of us in the relative center.
