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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. justtxyank

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    Well don't you realize that if you don't fight they won't kill you?
     
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    Idk much about Zelensky or his previous failings or faults but If he's willing to stay and die in the capital.... that's pretty admirable.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Tell that to the Jewish folks at the death camps.

    DD
     
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    I admit to not being super well versed either. Major seems to think he's a pretty corrupt individual?
     
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    Never ever, we bought our way out of it because we found a pot of resources that can feed us for a thousand years.

    No one where I live would ever move there. We’re living off your money.
     
  6. justtxyank

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    Tell it to Glynch (and Mathloom) not me. They are the ones who seem to think that the problem here is people resisting.
     
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    Do you have any connections to help me get a construction job in your country? I want to live better and be safe.
     
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  8. justtxyank

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    I don't think you get his point at all. You exist in that way because the international order allows it. If the international order suddenly changed or had been different in the last century, instead of being nice and safe and secure on your oil money enjoying your moral privilege (lmao!) you'd be the slave subjects of a master race and the only reason that doesn't happen now is because countries like the United States aren't stupid enough to say "Gosh I don't like war!"
     
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    That was the sound of the fat lady singing. It is official, not that we did not already see how this was going to end prior to that statement.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    As electric cars and solar grow, imagine how that works when Oil loses it's value? Glad you have it though, that Oil will go good to softening up those dollar bills you plan to eat.

    Or maybe you can plant them in the sand and grow crops.......

    Just know that if Russia, China or the USA decided they wanted your resources, there is nothing your country could do to stop it.......you are there by the grace of decency.

    DD
     
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    Got any real news sources or just that Al Jazeera like crap you posted?

    No one is going to like any of this - the question really is - what could anyone have done better?

    Trump was on his knees giving Putin a ball scrubbing, and tried to hand over the Ukraine by witholding aide.....so he doesn't count.

    I haven't read anything from anyone on what could have been done better? Other than putting the Ukraine into NATO or Troops inside there and inviting a WAR the USA doesn't want.

    RIght now, poll numbers are lose lose.....we shall see how it goes....this will define his presidency.

    Obama's biggest failure with Crimea......

    DD
     
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    Given that basically everyone seems to be yelling at each other that either he needs to be "more tough" or that the US needs to not be involved in anything except for domestic culture wars or Medicare for all, I would say that 36 % of people saying that he's doing a good job is a pretty solid number.

    The better polling question or focus group conversation would be "what would you want done that the White House has not done?" Everyone is an arm chair General Patton according to their own opinion so the topic alone should warrant very low approval numbers because both sides will be so colorful about their "expert" opinions.
     
  14. justtxyank

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    Yeah I was going to say the same thing. It's a brutal situation for a president to be in. He can't really DO anything so nobody is happy.
     
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    Agreed, it will honestly depend upon how well the Ukraine does.....in the end.

    DD
     
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    Exactly. It's a lose lose situation for not just Biden mind you... the world is dealing with the exact same question, and I'm sure Australia's polling would be equally crappy too. Everyone wants to do something, but those people do not have the weight of the world on their shoulder to be responsible for potentially the end of the world given that Putin's likelihood of nuking the United States IS NOT 0%. I don't even want to think what that percentage in a risk assessment actually is.
     
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    Putin getting ready to launch ICBMs if he is losing - great.

    DD
     
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    When was the last time that something like this happened?

    Hmmm. Let me think. Oh, yeah. I remember.

    It was when Russia moved its troops into the Crimea and took over that region during the Obama regime.

    There is a trend here that can be easily observed, for those who have eyes to see....
     

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