Dude this stuff is irrelevant. I know there’s a reason for every incident. If everyone justifies their own retaliation to an incident, then there is literally no end. This narrative is literally concocted to keep you in a loop. There will always be justification for something that was already done. This is not the first war, there are dozens. What you’re talking about is not nuance, it’sa pattern of propaganda I’ve seen dozens of times. All 3 sides are destroying Ukraine. That’s what an alien would see. This is disgusting, no heroes here. All criminal, except the citizens.
I don't see his posts, but I remember him always seeming like someone who would swoon for bullies and strongmen. Events like the present conflict really help reveal people's inner workings.
Discussing this with you is pointless. Don't you live in a Middle Eastern country that owes it's entire existence to American dollars and security?
Give me a break. This is not my first rodeo, you and I both know how the us conducts war abroad. Come one.
Yeah this is a HUGE point that people gloss over. The West has resisted Ukrainian efforts to join NATO entirely to appease Putin. It's not like we are out there begging Ukraine to ask to join NATO to stir the hornet's nest.
Here's a better example. Kid is constantly getting beat up by a bully. Teacher gives the kid advice - don't fight the bully. Make peace.
Yes and I live better and safer than you. Because they are robbing you more than they are robbing me, that’s the only reason. You can achieve the exact same wealth distribution. Open your eyes dude, they are just robbing you and you are playing along. Ukraine is just another in a series of heists between two sides who have no intention of unseating each other. American and Ukrainian citizens are the only losers here.
I have no idea and haven't seen it. But when I read your post I thought it could make sense as follows. The far right (middle right, yikes?) in the US now wants to move briskly away from post-war America, all of those ideals and principles. They're really ready for autocracy, no matter how much lipstick you want to put on that pig. Germany, which we truly helped build from 1945 onward, exists as a kind of repository of those post-war ideals. So in the same way that certain people rail about the "deep state," Germany is kind of a deep archive of what we used to stand for. (???) Just thinking out loud. I'm sure the "attack Germany!!1!" crowd isn't thinking very philosophically. LOL. Maybe they just remember that Obama was really popular there.
1) You keep trying to turn this into an argument on American politics which I have not defended. Very weird. 2) I live a pretty damn safe life and don't need any help with money, thanks, but I'm happy for you! 3) Your peaceful life exists only because America allows it. So I appreciate your willingness to throw your own safety and security away to make mine better. It speaks well of you. 4) None of this is relevant to the fact that Ukraine is being invaded.
Uh...this is a deep well thought out answer but I'll just add this... "Germany is Euro socialist trash full of Muslims and Merkel? Murkle? Whatever that fat broad's name was allow them Muslims to ruin her country!"
I have no problem with self determination by the Ukrainians, but as it stands, they are a weak and poor country caught in a geopolitical tug of war between Russian and the West. They are in a tough spot and what they "want" is going to have to be tempered to some degree by what their neighbors want. Or else. I rooted for the color rebellions in Ukraine and elsewhere and would root for them again. But for the aspirations of these people to be realized, they are going to have to accept certain realities, which means accommodating the Russians in the ways I outlined previously, and also abandoning political and especially military alignment with the west - at least for the foreseeable future. It is not about what they "want," it is about what the parameters are in which they can realize the most substantial and beneficial degree of self determination possible. As far as your assertions of me being pro-Russia and pro-China, blah, blah, blah, you are F.O.S.
It would achieve nothing except motivating the Russians and the Chinese to accelerate their development of an alternative international funds transfer system. This is an extremely short-sited, very bad idea. Especially since this is all but over with anyway.
I think it is good that the Ukrainians are fighting back. But they cannot win against the Russians. Not by themselves. And literally nobody has been or is going to help them. Including us. It is a very bad and sad situation. But it is what it is. And it is all but over.
Why isn't the Ukraine appealing directly to the Russian Military as well? I seriously doubt they want to be there dying for Putin. DD
I don't know Mojo's history on the subject that well, but is it possible he's offering a realistic take and not a pro Russian take? I mean there is a strong logical argument to just saying "Look, you can't win and dying a martyr still means you're dead." It's kind of like the governor saying a woman should just lay down and take it if she's being raped. Right?
