Maybe adding Oladipo was win now. But Stone saying it was is pretty much what he has to say. No GM is going to come out and say we are trying to lose and getting Dipo was just to flip him for better value later. It's not circular at all. I think if they were win now they would have kept Allen too. That's the win now move. Trading him for a pick is the win later move. I think Oladipo was a high upside flip move that failed. But we don't know for certain either way. I have no problem with logic or basketball. I am 100% confident that my logic skills are superior to yours because they are superior to most people and I have observed your logic so far and it isn't great. And I am not saying that to brag, I am saying it because it is the truth and logic is what I do for a living. I am going to leave you with a friendly tip about logic and arguments. Learn when to concede. Nobody has perfect arguments. There are holes and counterpoints to almost every position. When you are unwilling to concede during a debate you are just showing your ignorance. When you start attacking the person and not the argument you are showing your immaturity and lack of skill. Have more fun with your debates and get better at them. Step 1, learn to concede points.
It figures something else just completely goes over your head. Should not hate on the mentally challenged, not your fault you were born that way.
Yes, maybe. This can be lesson one on conceding. Realize that Stone could have traded for Oladipo for different reasons. It could be win now, it could be flip later, it could be a combo of both, or it could be something else. You don't know and acting like you know for sure is dumb. Accept your lack of knowledge and simply explain what you THINK happened.
This makes zero sense, nobody in the history of sports or business has offered 100 million dollars to say glad you came and can't wait for you to leave. You have never answered the question of what happens if he takes the offer? Nobody offers you money in the hope that you don't take it and leave for the simple fact there is a chance they might take it and stay and we are talking 100 million for a guy who has been injured several times, he was the fool for not taking it and look what happened. You don't even believe this, but just can't stop defending Stone. And the question still remains if they had not wanted to keep Oladipo why not trade for JA and Levert who were better assets. So are you now trying to tell us Stone thought he would get more for Oladipo than JA and Levert? And that makes sense to you?
Where are you going where people are offering you money to stay but really want you to leave? There is a big difference from offering money and just saying something.
Barring the fact that LeVert had a cancer discovered on his kidney, the Rockets clearly had a path in my mind when the exchanged LeVert's 3 year contract with Dipo's expiring contract. The Rocket's took picks over a player and took an expiring over a 3 year contract. They moved the RFA for a FRP.
If they talked about it why offer it in the 1st place? Are you ok that the FO thought they needed to fool somebody with this "gesture"? And you keep glossing over the fact that Oladipo said the Rockets definitely wanted to keep him. How does that factor into the equation?
People get BS lowball offers from jobs all the time when they are leaving. The company doesn't really want them to stay but they offer them something they know they won't accept because they want to be able say they tried to keep the person. It just happened to my wife two months ago.
For appearances. I am perfectly ok with the FO offering a max extension to show how the Rockets treat players. You have no objections with Dipo holding out for more money and never willingly to sign an extension? Dipo did what he thought was best for him. I care more about actions instead of small tidbits about the the Rockets "wanting him here". I'm sure they did want Dipo there, but not for the type of money Dipo would sign for.
A max extension offer of 100 million is not a lowball offer, it is literally the highest offer anyone could make in that situation. You are not even trying to make sense anymore. Now offering a max extension is a BS lowball offer? And let's just keep ignoring the fact that Dipo said Houston wanted to keep him, yet that part keeps getting ignored.
I did answer your question long ago. I said they might have been screwed if he signed a formal offer and it was submitted to the league. But again, it sounds like they already knew he was going to say no. Maybe they spoke to his agent or other NBA sources to get that information. My guess is that Stone thought he could get more for Dipo than LeVert if Dipo returned to all star form before the deadline. For Allen I don't think they wanted to pay him and didn't think he was good for the tank.
Appearances to whom? What are they gaining from appearances, since everybody and their mother is supposed to know it was all for show? None of this makes any kind of sense, who are these appearances for?
I don't know what else to tell you. Dipo himself said they went in thinking he wouldn't accept it. They didn't even give him a chance to say yes or no. You can google and read where several people say it's just a gesture. if you refuse to accept that possibility then fine. You don't understand it and you are unwilling to.
To the league and players..... We offered Dipo the max extension we could. He wanted more. We did good by Dipo even though it didn't work out. Houston "wanted to keep him around".... doesn't mean they would do so any price.....
You don't know what else to tell me? You have not told me anything, and now you are claiming they did not even give him a chance to answer yes or no? So why the **** offer it to him in the 1st place. You don't even understand or believe what you are saying. So according to you, The Rockets offered him the extension as a gesture, but then did not even give him a chance to say yes or no? Did I get that right? I am going to stop because you are just embarrassing yourself at this point.
This. Clearly the FO and Dipo’s representatives talked. LeVert had a cancerous tumor discovered during the trade so it’s not exactly like he was without certainty either. Allen, we got a FRP for a half a season of a RFA. In hindsight, we could have done better but we didn’t have that future information at the time.
