Response was directed at “go follow the Cavs”, which I do, along with other teams. By Green’s standards he has indeed been decent recently. If we are using the standards of a late first rounder high second rounder.
Did we see the same game? Bridges made tough shots over Green. Sometimes good defense doesn't mean the other player doesn't score. Green isn't asked to run the offense. When he occasionally does, he looks competent enough for his age.
It’s been 5 games so I hesitate to call it a trend (don’t want to jinx it), but I’m hopeful that his offense is turning a corner and becoming more efficient. His defense has been improving. But you realize both of these things are coming from absolutely horrific lows, in combination objectively THE worst player in the league levels. So naturally he has nowhere to go but up, although it is still nice to see. But with that said he has so far to go to even get to average because of how low he has to climb out of.
These people look at everything in a vacuum. Some of the shortcomings are on Green but a large portion of it is the team structure and the way the staff has approached developing rookies. There is a 0.00000% chance that Mobley would have looked nearly as good in this team. I would bet my house on it. There is zero context in their minds
That's such a disingenuous argument when you say objectively worst player in the league. You can cherry pick whatever advances metrics you want but everyone knows he's not the worst player in the league.
He was drafted to be ready to semi lead the team to a new era too and not playing catchup to other rookies hence he is getting 30 mpg that rookie Kobe could only dream of. Ok, got it. SGs do rarely have an impact early on, that was all GM.
Clearly we didn’t. Bridges wide open layup on cut to the basket during crunch time. Bridges put back on no box out. Running the offense is much worse. Misses roll man constantly. Ball stopper, offense grinds to a halt when ball hits his hands, either wastes seconds doing nothing then gets rid of it, or iso jack up shot. Had an easy swing to wide open Schroder in the corner, just held onto the ball instead with Schroder clapping at him.
You're delusional if you think me being ready has any sort of meaning here. The player has to be ready to lead the team in scoring or in other stats, and he is not being ready. Just making sense of this senseless circle jerking here but I got it, you're sounding like a mindless bot and not like a human being at times. You do you.
Maybe you should stop following the Rockets because Green offends you so much. Lol. If that’s the standard then he’s playing well above the late first rebounder currently playing on the Rockets. Maybe he’s moved to mid first rounder now! lol.
The coaching is horrid, I agree with that. But, why is Sengun and Christopher looking just fine under the same conditions? Good players rise above the noise. You just became homeless.
On your second paragraph. Last night on most possessions when he got the ball at the perimeter, there was absolutely no set play. His teammates were not clearing out for an iso while at the same time not setting screens for him to initiate a pick and roll play. If he gets the ball at the perimeter and wants to orchestrate the offense his teammates need to either clear out for an iso for spacing or actually initiate a pick to start a pnr play. Instead they do neither. Now you can put some of that blame on the 20 years old not being more commanding telling veteran players like EG to get out the way or actually set a screen. But at the same time the veteran presence on the team should understand this also and be more decisive and not just be hovering next to Green neither creating space for him or setting a pick to initiate an actual set designed play. This has no bearing on his actual ability to pass out of a set designed pnr play which he is actually decent at.
You're making my point for me here. You said it was vague, I said you must not be ready to hear it because it's plain english. Not interested in repeating the cycle of where you think Green ranks, please let's stop this loop. I find our other discussions much much more informative and entertaining. You seem to need agreement for what you do. I don't, I considered everything you have said about Green before making my choice.
When Green gets the ball he needs to either swing it(esp when there is a wide open teammate in the corner like Schroder was) or attack. Instead, he is not decisive with it, he holds the ball, sometimes dances with it a little and gets no where, then passes it off while the clock ticks down. He just does not have a good feel for the game, bbiq, intangibles, whatever you want to call it.
So you didn't address any part of my paragraph and just reinstated your original premise with different wording. Address what I actually typed.
You seem to preach from some sort of Jalen Green or Kobe bible and I ask you to share some details, you come up with a cryptic response that satifies no one. Sure, I will end this but just telling you going all zen about it is not the answer and will not make the team better. That is our goal and hope, that the team is doing well. Unless you have a DeLorean you hide from the public. Cheers.
Sengun and Jaygup have had ups and downs just the same. I think they have all looked "just fine" they're all rookies and each one does different things well. Each one has had bad stretches and good stretches.
On pnr plays he constantly either misses the roll man or force feeds the roll man when it’s not there. Its obvious that he’s made up his mind on scoring or passing (mostly it’s scoring) beforehand instead of improvising on what the defense is giving him, which is why he gets blocked so often. Also, I have never, EVER, seen him hit the skip pass on the weak side out of a pnr, which tells me he is only capable of the most basic of reads (going back on the lack of feel/bbiq/intangibles).
