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Forcing children to wear a mask is child abuse. The Left failed children.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 31, 2022.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    This quite clearly shows that this is a partisan issue, when it shouldn't be. It also validates my thread title. It's the Left who arrogantly wants to restrict parents' freedom to make the best decision for their children. The Left is the opposite of "liberal" today - it has become authoritarian and anti-freedom. (See: Trudeau.)

    I think B-Bob made a very good post on this thread about his conversation with a formerly Democrat friend who feels that the blind parroting of the party line of "measures" made her no longer feel able to support the Democrats.
     
  2. Amiga

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    Independents aren't left and a majority of them still want mask mandates. Most importantly (and this is a bit of a shock to me), nearly 60% of parents still want a mask mandate. Only 36% said it should be optional and only 7% said it should be not allowed. So, no, this isn't a left thing.

    I can't believe you came up with that conclusion after seeing this poll. This is just a single poll at a point in time - of all the things you can argue, you use the data from this poll to make an illogical conclusion. It tells me that you are stuck and can't consider any other data.

    I do agree it has been politicized to death. Mask is pretty easy and to me, the right has made it a huge issue out of it. It's just not that big of a deal.
     
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    Exactly. But the politicians know what's up. The public will no longer tolerate mask mandates. It's time to stop. Even the Democrat governors know this.

    Just not some of the posters on this board. They are still waiting until the party line officially changes so they can then parrot the new party line.
     
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    Hmm... retrumplicans have been the ones who originally argued that COVID-19 wasn't serious. It was a cold. It was going away magically. Then when cases, hospitalizations, and deaths started to explode, they argued against masks, vaccines, social distancing and closures. As things got worse they continued to argue against all of the above and introduced bizarre alternatives like bleach, cleansers, horse pills. And now... still arguing against masks, vaccinations, social distancing. And here you are...

    btw, Trudeau is an authoritarian and anti-freedom? Why? Because he is enforcing laws?
     
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    The DD jinx - any side DD takes in an argument automatically ends up being wrong.

    Dan Langhi
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    Well, Trump said a lot of really ridiculous stuff.

    Doesn't mean that authoritarian overreach from the left is justified either, especially at this point in time.
     
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    I don’t agree with the child abuse comparison, but I think what OP is trying to say is that studies haven’t demonstrated a benefit to masking kids in school, but with masking comes barriers to socialization in young kids. As everything is a risk/benefit analysis he leans not masking kids
     
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    "Anyone"? The Texas Medical Center had 208 covid related hospitalizations last week alone. By my count, Houston has had nearly 3k people hospitalized during Omicron, which is far more than any previous wave. Not sure how you conclude who won't get seriously ill.

    That's not how science works. Listening to "the science" means many many scientists agree.

    Anyway, glad you've recovered, glad you stayed close to home while your family was testing positive.
     
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    The lady we got it from was asymptomatic throughout. She also gave it to her sister who then had moderate symptoms. Our children were each sick for about 1-2 days and are now full of energy again already. They had much worse flus and other stuff (like hand, foot and mouth disease). My wife and I got it with 1-2 days delay after the kids and we are just going through it. I would say it's like a mild flu. No fever. We are boostered and have no significant risk factors - I'm 50 now, my wife is younger, but even at 50, the risk isn't elevated that much yet. I trust the science on Omicron and on the effect of the booster shots. Based on how we feel now and based on statistics, it seems unlikely that it would get a lot worse. Oxygen is at 99%, so none of those issues either.
     
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    LOL - seriously you are resorting to the stupid lazy old meme type of argument?

    Certainly though I have been wrong, maybe you should learn from my example and just stop crying like a baby and admit you are wrong.

    DD
     
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    Every.
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    Yeah, see, that is just lazy and wrong in and of itself.

    Was right about KPJ, was right about Scola, was right about Yao, was right about....so so much....and...guess what, am right about this...baby!

    DD
     
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    Nah. I like you anyway.
     
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    At rough look, this is consistent.
    One bureaucracy (with their own aims) emphasizes what will be true for the majority, in the short term.
    One, more cautious (or you would say "evil" or "controlling") bureaucracy emphasizes that a smaller population of children face substantial risks (apparently also true) and also we have no clue what long-term effects there could be.

    Importantly, I do believe a lot more kids in the US are technically obese and already facing some cardiovascular challenges in that way. A tall, skinny kid in Denmark and a fat one in the US may be an apple to an orange... or more like a banana to a pear. :oops:

    Denmark wants people to get back to normal, "**** it," basically. And fine. No real argument from me at this point.
    CDC doing what they typically true to do, protecting as many people as possible and expressing abundant caution. Again, no real argument from me. People can take this with a grain of salt, and based on what I'm seeing today in SF, people are going with the Danish model!

    Neither is superior on the science.
     
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    I like you too, just know you are wrong here, and whining about it......I understand not giving up though, respect.

    Enjoy relishing in your wrongness.

    DD
     
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    You would know a thing or two about that .
     

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