We have future picks. none of these guys need to be all strs they can be good role players and we can draft a star later.
This. Taken to the next step, you create an atmosphere where young players check out and vets are just getting a check.When that happens, your chances of meeting potential go way down and you will never have hope to exceed that potential. Also, your young players are stunted forever and looking for the first opportunity to bail. The greatest tragedy for a team is multiple and repeated unforced errors that screw with potential and the Rockets are well on their way to writing an NBA version of Hamlet.
My biggest fear would be a broke owner buying the team and dismantling a championship contender. Oh wait…
If all Stone can do with his high draft picks is select good role players then I'll change my biggest fear into possibly having a bad front office.
I understand that but picks arent always stars no matter how good your GM is. If that were the case mobley would probably have gone #1 anyway. Kawhi jordan curry young doncic harden ginobili none of these were #1 picks. You do the best with what you get and thats my concern. We may not be seeing how good Jalen is because of how bad our coach is. Getting a star in the draft is mostly luck, situation and development.
In a vacuum, if it had to be one thing, I would choose Jalen not reaching his potential. That said, Silas is hindering his potential and needs to be fired. Wood and Ego should no longer be on this team. Stone needs the luck to bounce our way and if it does, he needs to choose a Chet or Jabari.
The biggest fear for this team isn't related to any player or coach, and not really even the front office. The Rockets as an organization lack many of the traits successful organizations have and most of those issues all trace back to poor ownership. The Rockets lost one of the 5 best general managers in the league because the owner of the team would not meet his promises (new practice facilities/budget increases for scouting and player development) and engendered a toxic work environment. The man the owner choose to run his organization (Stone) was not the most qualified candidate, and is an expert at playing politics and not running an NBA organization. Stone isn't genuine, there is no overriding organizational goal or set of values. Everything is centered around what will appease the owner right now. The head coach has restrictions on how he can do his job, and isn't the most qualified candidate but was cheap. The players are not held accountable. Players can leave in the middle of games or refuse to check into the game and they are praised for being cornerstones of the organization. Younger players like Green and Sengun have teammates like Wood, Porter and Schroeder that do not respect authority and largely can do anything they want. Playing well (Christopher) means very little, as the coach will play veterans because he doesn't want to ruin his future job prospects by losing games. The general manager doesn't step in and stop it because it benefits him as well. The coaches and front office and ownership all are insulting to the fan base and the players as well..... everyone involved in the organization is only interested in their short term best interests. Winning in the NBA is more difficult than it ever has been. Players are training more and utilizing technology at a level never seen before. Organizations now have more avenues to get an advantage than in the past, and the budgets for the front office have increased. There are advanced analytics, the G-League, talent all over the world and a larger network of potential coaches....... so having a front office that isn't as informed or lacks leadership is a recipe for long term disaster. There is a reason that an organization like the Grizzlies started winning, they had someone in the front office with a vision and that entrusted other smart people to do their job free of influence from ownership. They hired like minded people that were progressive in their approach and very smart and knowledgeble......... and we don't appear to have that.
Yes.... but in general, it isn't coincidence that many of those players were drafted by smart organizations. The Spurs were extremely progressive and shared common traits throughout the organization and were able to draft players like Ginobili, Parker and Leonard. The Mavericks had Donny Nelson, who knew more about the international game than anyone else in the league and they went out of their wait to draft Doncic. They knew he would be special. Teams don't have a lot of control over luck, but they do have control over situation and development. The Mavs didn't get lucky, they tanked for Doncic and actually had to trade up. Nelson and Cuban told the head coach to not play players that could help them win. The Spurs took Parker at the end of round one and Ginobili in round two. They also traded up to get Leonard. When you are able to establish a strong culture, with smart forward thinking people - luck eventually goes your way. You can look at the Grizzlies and the hiring decisions they made and actually track why they are good now....... and you can look at the Pelicans and see why they are not.
Those players were passed up by both good and bad organizations and thats my entire point. The Spurs drafted well sure but what are they doing now. They arent exactly a bad organization now. Its mostly luck and what you can make out of the situation you were given. Our problem is not that we werent gifted a star. Its that we dont know how to use the talent that we have, maximize it and recognize a fit to make a cohesive future up and coming team. We may have been gifted a star but we wont know it because our coaching is dumb. So youre basically agreeing with what I said. no teams dont have control over luck that was my point I was talking about the draft specifically not organizational strategy and hiring when I spoke of luck. "the draft is about luck" and as I said i was worried about everything else you are stating and saying thats our problem. BTW the Mavs did get lucky with Doncic its only hindsight that tells you they didnt. They would be just as lucky with Trae Young. If Luka never wins a chip and Trae does who got lucky then? Last I checked Trae took a team to the ECF. Luka hasnt been out of the first round and theyve made horrible trading decisions. No one knows for sure what a rookie will be and im sick and tired of armchair GMs acting like they knew. They DID NOT KNOW. They took an educated guess.
Silas is going to continue to be terrible that's my fear. He has nerfed all the rookies so much everyone thinks they are trash. Tate is averaging more touches than Green for goodness sake.
I would not worry about them Spurs as they had abundant success the last decades....... Their problem is not their mediocre team but management and coaching.....how do they look post Pop era. Structure is the most important part, then you fill it with talent, hard work, virtue, foundation, luck.
My biggest fear is that they still think CWood is a center/rim protector and that they don't need to address it in the draft.
Yes and that was the entire point of my post. Somehow Nook thinks I mean luck for the entire organization I was just talking about the draft. I dont blame Stone for the draft because as I said thats just luck and he took one of the two guys slated for the 2nd pick. However hiring Silas and some of his other moves have been horrible decisions and will cost us.
The Spurs didn't need to rely much on luck, they were progressive in their analysis and were an incredibly well ran organization for a long time. They also were exceptional at player development. As for the Spurs now, the league has caught up to them to a degree and their coach and GM are older and not as innovative as they were. The Spurs were all on the same page from the top down. They scouted and drafted well and developed players once they were on the team. They could wait for players like Ginobili and Parker and Leonard to develop. The Spurs I believe made a mistake once they lost Leonard, they should have tanked and gone for higher draft choices. Luck is what happens when hard work and innovation meet. No, the Mavericks had a pretty good idea that Doncic would be special. The report of Donny Nelson has been leaked and he said Doncic was the best international prospect since Sabonis 40 years earlier. Did the Mavericks know exactly what he would do? No, but they felt strongly he would be a franchise player. They tanked a season and traded up in the draft to get him - he is who they wanted. No someone could have taken him #1 and they wouldn't have gotten him - but they made a proper evaluation of his talent and made a calculated effort to get him. As for Young, do we know that Young was next on the Mavericks board? Nothing is certain, and luck plays a part in the draft but so does talent evaluation and player development.... No I don't think we are that far apart in what we think and I wasn't saying you were wrong.
Please stop im gonna end this disscussion here because i feel like youre not actually reading my responses. I DIDNT SAY THE SPURS WERE LUCKY AS AN ORGANIZATION. They were lucky during the draft. Youre agreeing with me and dont understand you are because youre not reading. Finally "pretty good idea" is not knowing for certain. Its bullshit if thats the case then Morey is an idiot because he has passed up stars in the draft. No Morey is a good GM BUT THE DRAFT IS AN EDUCATED GUESS, NO ****ING BODY KNOWS FOR CERTAIN.
