It really is not, given how depleted the big man market is. He has a good chance of making it, nothing is guaranteed though. I never bet on All Time rankings.
You haven’t seen enough to say Mobley will pretty clearly fall somewhere around the Moses/Elgin/Pippen tier of first ballot HOFers? That much is pretty obvious to me, so I didn’t find the post too extreme. After all, it did say that Mobley might NOT become the best offensive as well as the best defensive player in the league. We all know he probably will, but I’m glad the poster acknowledged that there is a chance he won’t reach the Jordan/Hakeem tier.
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I've been pleasantly surprised with his passing recently. Guys just missed shots. But he is seeing how he warps the defense with his speed and explosion. I believe he and mobley will both distort the game with their physical gifts and will be surprised if both are not star players. The problem is the mechanics on Green's jumper. His shot obviously can fall but I can't tell what is going wrong when they don't because it's so odd.
Many NBA vets would say yes.....just got to power through it. When I wrote that I took down stats of 5 players: Scottie Barnes, Jalen Green, Cade Cunningham, Evan Mobley and Sengun. Scottie Barnes: only a slight dip in FG% but big drop in 3P% First 25 games: 48.6% (FG%/ 12.8 FGA)...34.6% (3P%/ 2.1 3PA) Next 17 games: 45.1% (FG%/ 12.0 FGA)...28.6% (3P%/ 3.7 3PA) Evan Mobley: big drop in 3P% and FT%.....big increase in FG% perhaps more dunks) First 25 games: 47.4% (FG%)...38.3% (3P%/ 1.7 3PA)...77.3% (FT%/ 3.0 FTA) Next 19 games: 54.8% (FG%)...19.0% (3P%/ 1.1 3PA)...55.3% (FT%/ 4.5 FTA) Jalen Green: slight drop in FG% but slight uptick in 3P% and FT% *First 18 gms: 38.2% (12.7 FGA)...27.8% (3P%/ 6.4 3PA)...80.7% (FT%/ 3.2 FTA) Next 18 gms: 36.4% (12.7 FGA)....30.6% (3P%/ 6.0 3PA)...85.5% (FT%/ 4.2 FTA) * Green took about a month off after 18 games to nurse hamstring (first 17 games with two bigs lineup) Cade has been better across the board First 25 gms: 38.3 (FG%)...31.4% (3P%)...84.9% (FT%) Next 16 gms: 41.9 (FG%)...35.6% (3P%)...87.9% (FT%) Sengun: about 18 mins a game dropped in FG% and 3P% First 25 gms: 50.7% (FG%/ 6.0 FGA)...35.7% (3P%/ 1.1 3PA)...71.1% (FT%/ 3.6 FTA) Next 18 gms: 45.6% (FG%/ 6.3 FGA)...15.8% (3P%/ 1.1 3PA)...69.1% (FT%/ 3.1 FTA) Suggs had all of December off....and I forgot about Franz Wagner
Watch the fluid movement...KD like. We talked about this in front of the draft. (not KD's game, the way he moves) Look at his ability to handle the ball/run the court, for a guy his size (coast to coast)...the ability to stick the J.... Heaven's game should blossom in a spectacular way as he get older, becomes a man. (filling out/adding muscle) We'll see much more of him inside, but he'll still be able to play off the wing. Mobley can guard 1-5, and will be the Captain of a championship level D, and eventually the offense will run through him. With his vision and passing skills... The guy has it all. Best player in the draft....BY FAR.
He really doesn’t have it “all,” though. His FT% lately has been awful. His three point shot recently has been terrible, too, and having a low FT% is a bad sign if you’re looking for eventual shot development. Frankly, he looks more like Ben Simmons than Durant.
I specifically said..NOT KD's GAME...Forget about the shot ( which already bodes well for the future) for a moment and concentrate on the rest of his game...and how he will likely evolve. To be perfectly candid, I see Heaven evolving into a Bill Russell type...while also having insane skills on the offensive side too. He's a transcendent player....the Unicorn.
We all know he will become the best offensive player, LOL. There is literally zero chance that happens. Sorry, I don’t usually make such grand predictions, but I am 100% sure he will not become the best offensive player in the league. Proclaiming him top 25 all-time after half a season of above average rookie production is laughable as well. I think he is going to be a really good player, maybe even a multi-time all-star, but I have not seen anywhere near top 25 all-time potential. Moses, Elgin Baylor are way out of his league now and probably in the future. Pippen has been overrated in my opinion.
lol putting someone in the hof within 40 games of their career is as bonkers as declaring a career over after not produving nba live numbers in his first 40 games. Numbers when not facing Wood over the past 2 weeks are more George Muresan with the Bullets since you guys love overreacting. And Muresan at least had movie stardom.
I get it, but you said he had it “all.” He doesn’t, at least not yet. Not even close, really. He has significant offensive limitations right now. Perhaps his game develops, maybe it doesn’t. But I don’t like how everyone is assuming that Mobley’s game will develop and Green’s won’t. The opposite seems true: Green is developing, and Mobley is taking a step back. The last five games, Mobley has averaged just over 10 points a game, scoring less than 10 in three of them. He also averaged less than 10 rebounds in three of those games. It’s actually pretty surprising that he’s only averaging 8 rebounds a game. You talk about his passing abilities, but he’s averaging the same number of assists a game as Green. You speak of the “eye” test, but when Green explodes, he passes that with flying colors, too. It’s too early to make such grand proclamations about either.
Best player in the draft is not completely settled either. See ApacheWarrior’s post above. Mobley and Barnes are regressing, Cade is progressing. I personally think Jalen Green will be better offensively than Mobley as early as next year, but that is irreverent to the Mobley HOF discussion. All the proclamations after half a season about any of these rookies are hyperbolic in nature, but that what fans are (myself included) so you are forgiven.
One of the biggest question marks about him not being the first overall pick is his mentality. Does he have superstar mentality? He has all the tools in the world but I dont think he has that.
Giannis was terrible his rookie year. In his second year, it looked like he could be a decent rotational player. In his third year he was a legit middle of the road starter. His 4th year he was an All Star and his 5th year he was GIANNIS. Kobe Bryant was terrible his rookie year. In his second year, it looked like he could be a decent rotational player. His third year, he was a legit starter. His 4th year he was an All Star and his 5th year he was KOBE! Patience
Garland has been carrying that team offensively night in night out so by the 3rd or 4th year, I expect to see some growth there otherwise you are right, he is only a 2nd option. Either way he is a Top 100 All time at worst IMO barring injuries, some unforeseen issues. Remains to be seen if he can crack 50 or 25 All time.
