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Update: Canadian Truckers Rule : AroundtheWorld > ScamFaker

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Jan 28, 2022.

  1. tinman

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    Your globalist elite types - especially the Davis crowd - are not going to be liking this at all.

    They have gone to extraordinary lengths in recent years to program the attention of the masses away from being agitated by a class conflict, and towards racial conflict, climate conflict, medical conflict, sexual conflict, political conflict, or pretty much any other type of conflict - no matter how absurd - as long as it does not involve them.

    This trucker thing is escalating class conflict in a very high profile way. That is surely why they are so desperately frantic in their efforts to stop it, by the way.
     
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    I don't think Companies are OK with losing money in a quarter over a trucker protest. If you can't generate revenue you can't pay employees.
     
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    It would be easy enough to make it stop. The governor's are doing it. No reason the Prime Ministers and Presidents cannot do it also. In fact, they should.

    Appeasement it is called. These guys have no apparent objection to appeasing international state sponsors of terrorism, such as Iran. But the working man? The little guys? The deplorables? Stay tuned....
     
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    Fake accounts ?
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    This must be state media
    Who started that thread ? Hmmmm
     
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    The same people screaming about BLM and their supporters blocking freeways peacefully (I'm not talking about the violent ones) are now supporting Canadian truckers blocking roads. The hypocrisy is astonishing.
     
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    This is looking less like a real protest and more like something pushed by fake / hacked FB accounts, outsiders, and financed by special interest (antivaxxers).
     
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    Didn't you say they aren't unions?
    They are going to take a political hit. I doubt specifically from the truckers demands but more likely from how this might be adding to inflation and other economic woes.
    FIGHT ON PROLETARIOT!
     
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    An interesting op-ed about the politics around the protests.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/wait-now-the-right-loves-traffic-blocking-protesters?ref=scroll
    Wait, Now the Right Loves Traffic-Blocking Protesters?

    SEMI-POPULISM
    Conservatives rallying behind the Canadian trucker blockade were passing laws a year ago allowing motorists to run over protesters.

    “What are these protesters protesting other than their own incompetence?” asked the famous person.

    “To folks who complain protest demands make others uncomfortable… that’s the point,” said another famous person.

    If you’re following the current discourse about the Canadian truckers occupying Ottawa, the capital city, and blockading major international trade routes in protest of vaccine mandates—you might think the first quote came from an outraged liberal, while the second one from a sympathetic conservative.

    In fact, the first quote is from right-wing firebrand Ben Shapiro (referring to anti-Trump protesters in 2017), and the second quote is from democratic socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (talking about Black Lives Matter protests in 2020).


    A few years ago, the left might have supported these working-class heroes who are (as AOC might say) just making others uncomfortable. But the Canadian truckers who call themselves the “Freedom Convoy” are the new darlings of the right, who seem to be relishing this moment of stalling traffic and owning the libs, even as they refuse to get the jab.

    It’s a sign of how the right is increasingly identifying with the working-class, even as the left alienates them by cozying up to highly educated technocratic elites and embracing “woke” progressive politics. It’s also a sign of how populism is an international brotherhood that respects no borders.

    And it’s not going away any time soon.

    The Department of Homeland Security has “received reports of a convoy of truckers planning to potentially block roads in major metropolitan cities in the United States in protest of, among other things, vaccine mandates for truck drivers.” This could mean Washington, DC, and/or Los Angeles, California—which would sure cause some headaches for the sprawling city of freeways that’s hosting Sunday’s Super Bowl game.

    Granted, the Canada convoy represents a minority of the Canadian population (in a survey last month, less than 30 percent of Canadians thought there should be zero vaccination requirements, and an estimated 90 percent of Canadian truckers are vaccinated), but angry populism has a way of grabbing outsized political influence.

    I have a deep, abiding respect for the hard-working folks who make sure there’s food on the shelves when I go to the grocery store. When COVID-19 started, I dedicated an edition of my email newsletter specifically to truck drivers and other underappreciated workers.

    But these protests rub me the wrong way. And it has nothing to do with my position on vaccines (which may surprise you). As a conservative, I’ve always viscerally disliked disruptive protests—particularly the kind that metastasize into (or begin with) lawlessness.

    You have the right to peaceful protest, so long as you are respectful and adhere to law and order. (There are, of course, certain cases where laws are so immoral that they demand civil disobedience. But in my opinion, objecting to receiving a life-saving vaccination hardly qualifies as an example.)

    If you want to obtain a permit and give speeches at the Lincoln Memorial, have at it. But if you occupy someone’s office or hold a rally in front of their house, then brother, you can count me out. The ballot box is the best place to voice and adjudicate the vast majority of our political differences.

    So what about the rest of my fellow conservatives?

    It is ironic, but not surprising, that this truckers’ protest is being championed by Republicans like Sen. Ted Cruz and Rep. Jim Jordan.

    “Such turf takeovers have traditionally been the province of the left, not the right,” wrote Politico’s Jack Shafer, who cited 1930s union organizers taking over factories, the civil rights and anti-war movements (“with the peaceniks famously occupying the office of Columbia University’s president”), and Occupy Wall Street. In other words, what we are seeing is, as Kevin Williamson wrote for National Review, the American Right’s “hippie phase.”

    I think I speak for a great many commuters when I say that if you try to shut down street traffic, you’ve lost my support. It isn’t just inconvenient, it’s scary.

    Truckers, especially, should appreciate the danger (I’m thinking here about Reginald Denny, the truck driver who was dragged from his rig and beaten within an inch of his life during the 1992 LA riots). Even if violence isn’t intended, blocking traffic could prevent or delay someone from getting to the hospital by paralyzing traffic. Never mind the economic and personal toll it takes on other people just trying to get to their jobs or shuttle their kids to school.

    To observe yet another irony, I’m old enough to remember when Black Lives Matter shut down highways and the right responded with laws making it easier to run protesters over—and get away with it!

    Occupations, sit-ins, and traffic blockades also have a way of scaring and inconveniencing totally innocent people. There’s currently an injunction, bringing an end to the almost constant horn honking that was plaguing Ottawa, but just imagine if you were unlucky enough to live near this mess.

    Another problem anytime you get this many “protesters” together is a crowd psychology where people quit identifying as individuals. Whether it’s a group of activists chasing Ted Cruz out of a DC restaurant, rioters at the U.S. Capitol, a cancel-culture mob trying to take down a comedian, or a convoy of trucks, if you’re not careful, a crowd can turn into a mob..

    This is where it gets messy and confusing. While conservatives generally fear anyone wielding pitchforks and brandishing lanterns, right-wing populism is different—which is why I think we have the rise of this sort of behavior on the Trumpian right today (I didn’t love the Tea Party movement, but at least it didn’t engage in mob violence or intimidation).
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    Indeed, the right actually has a rich history of provocative, and sometimes violent protests.

    Take, for example, the 1970 “Hard Hat riot,” when mostly white construction workers violently stormed a peaceful anti-Vietnam War demonstration in Lower Manhattan, mere days after the National Guard killed four peaceful anti-war demonstrators on the campus of Kent State University.

    Some of those construction workers were likely just there for the hippie-punching, but this was also about politics, class, and culture. Today, the hard hats would be associated with the political right, but these were mostly socially conservative Democrats and old-school union guys (formerly called “union thugs” by conservatives).

    But if people on the right are now embracing these working-class protesters for sticking it to the man, people on the left are eschewing them.


    “The workers of the world are literally uniting,” wrote Batya Ungar-Sargon, “And yet these truckers have not been embraced by the left. Instead they have been tagged as fascists and racists by progressive pundits, activists, and politicians—those who tweeted ‘Stay Home! Slow the Spread!’ while truckers delivered their Amazon Prime packages.”

    Ungar-Sargon credits the Freedom Convoy for “fulfilling Marx’s fantasy,” which only reaffirms this conservative’s visceral suspicions about this protest movement and its tactics. Having said that, she’s absolutely right to say that the truckers are being “smeared by the very people who claim to prioritize the working class.”

    For decades, the Democratic Party was the party of organized labor and the “working man,” while the Republican Party was called the “party of business” or “the rich.” That image has flipped in a lot of ways in recent years, and this is both a blessing and a curse for the GOP. It’s one thing to import a bunch of blue-collar Democrats into your coalition, but do we have to adopt the left’s tactics, too?

    Personally, I’ll keep the tax cuts and Supreme Court Justices, thank you very much. But don’t expect to see me at your next sit-in.

    And I wouldn't recommend trying to step in front of my car on I-95, either.
     
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    It would be awesome if the truckers blocked traffic in cities in Kentucky.
     
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    Update @tinman is still most embarrassing 55 year old virgin in the game today
     
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    Lol
    What happened ? I thought the d&d welcomed Canadians with arms wide open


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