Seemed like a pretty even trade. Harden’s decline seems real and dropping another max contract on him is just a lot of ****ing money for him. Could be great with him and Joel but Joel is going to be on his ass for sloppy defense. Can Harden actually handle that?
I still find it hard to understand why Harden would want to leave KD & the Nets that badly. Yes Kyrie is frustrating and the injuries have sucked, but KD is returning and there is still a great chance to win the title. Fortunately for Harden, forcing his way to the Sixers still gives him a great shot at winning the title. The only question mark is what does Harden do when Joel has the ball and where will he play on defense. Embiid similarly will need to make some adjustments. He needs to be a more active roll man which he's never done. And on defense the Sixers may be forced to play a more switching style because that is Hardens best and preferred scheme.
Considering the fact that he's seen first hand how Harden has killed his teams for years, I'm pretty sure he has an idea
So Curry is that much better at defense? They seemed to get along pretty well? You really think defense is gonna cause a rift between them, after how much easier Harden is gonna make his life on the offensive end?
Yes, I see it as a potential issue. I don't think comparing the expectations of Seth Curry to the expectations of Harden is a fair comparison either.
After over 400 pages it will seem strange coming to this forum and not seeing this thread on the top page. It has been entertaining to read
Harden has Thybulle and even Embiid on the back end, to make up for any defensive lapses, instead of having to rely on the corpses of Griffin and LMA. With all the offense that Harden will generate by himself, I don't think Embiid will be too mad. Especially if they win a lot of games.
I totally understand being annoyed by Irving. But before KD was injured, the Nets we're still either 1st or 2nd in the east most of the year. Even with all their injuries etc they are/we're still the favorites to win the title. I've no clue if Nash is a good coach or not, but he's had to deal with Kyrie not playing, Harris barely playing, KDs injury, Harden and Blake's under performing. Despite this the Nets we're in 1st place before KD was injured.
How does this help MilSap? I have questions about his role He was unhappy on the Nets. . . .I did not know the reason Rocket River
Honest .. . . Harden plays the Role we wanted CP3/Westbrook to play Make sure the second unit is not giving up double digit leads Keep the ship steady while Embiid gets some rest Philly will be fine Rocket River
Brooklyn is currently 8th and sitting at 29-25 Durant is going to be out at least 2-4 weeks They do not have a cupcake schedule They will make the playoffs If Durant stays out too long they will be facing Bucks/Heat in the 1st round how much do we believe in the Bulls and the New Look Cavs? Rocket River
1. The Nets were in Cleveland Jan. 17. In their locker room before the game, Kyrie Irving lit ablaze some sage — a Native American ritual Irving has embraced in order to cleanse negative energy. Irving doesn’t do this before every game, but he apparently still feels haunted by parts of his past on the Cavs. So he lit his torch. 2. Harden, according to sources who were in the room when it happened, was seated in front of his locker, watching Irving, and looked at Kyrie like he had three heads. 3. “Definitely a weird vibe between them,” one source said. “You could tell Harden was annoyed, and Kyrie wasn’t feeling James.” 4. In two seasons, Harden has quit on two different teams until they traded him. When he tries to explain this one, my guess is he will not come out and say, explicitly, that he wanted to be as far away from Kyrie as possible. But make no mistake, Irving had something to do with it. 5. Opening night — so, Oct. 19 — in Milwaukee, I asked Harden, point blank, if he was happy with the Nets. “Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely,” he said. I asked because the night before, the NBA’s deadline for contract extensions passed without Harden signing one to stay in Brooklyn past this season. “I love it here,” he said. “I feel at home. It’s nothing to worry about.” What changed? 6. The Nets were in first place on New Year’s Eve, in spite of a COVID-19 surge that ripped through the team. On Jan. 5, the day of Irving’s first game this season, Brooklyn was 1 ½ games behind the Bulls for first. The Nets, as a matter of fact, were in first in the East as recently as Jan. 22. They have not won since. 7. Yes, there are a number of factors that play into this current nine-game losing streak. One is Kevin Durant’s knee injury. Another is Harden, who has missed three straight games and five of the past seven with hamstring soreness — which first appeared after the Nets lost at home to the struggling Lakers, and Harden was on the court by himself because Durant was hurt and Irving won’t take the COVID vaccine. 8. The Nets were built with the idea that the Big 3 would carry them. Harden knew it. He’s seen Durant miss large amounts of time due to injury the past two seasons, and now, Irving won’t take the same shot Harden took to be eligible to play home games. Durant and Irving have what Harden, 32, does not: a title. 9. Harden has said publicly he was frustrated the Nets weren’t playing better. He saw how much the Nets need Irving on the court, all the time, and did the math on how nuts that would be to play home playoff games without Irving, even though Irving isn’t hurt. 10. “I’mma give him the shot,” Harden once joked of Irving. Now that seems like less of a joke. 11. The Nets were 13-3 when Durant, Harden, and Irving played in the same game, so this next argument is a little harder to make. But Harden’s ball-dominant, initiate-and-shoot style is not a great fit for Irving. Kyrie moved off of his point guard spot when the Nets traded for Harden last season. With Simmons, Irving can remain off the ball, but he knows the ball will come to him more often because Simmons won’t be pounding out the shot clock and looking for 3s. 12. Irving was ready for Harden to move on, too. When Irving heard Harden was in fact hoping to be traded, a well-placed source says he was eager to see it come to fruition. 13. Look, I am for player empowerment and for teams that go all-in to win now. We are seeing the dark side of both trends. 14. The Nets had a young core that included Jarrett Allen and Caris LeVert. They didn’t have to blow it up when Irving decided to sign in Brooklyn in the summer of 2019 and bring Durant with him, but their presence meant that, eventually, one or more of Brooklyn’s younger players would have to go. And then when Harden forced the Rockets to trade him, the Nets felt they had to go and get him, trading away Allen and LeVert, among others. This was the time to jump through a championship window, with both feet. 15. Today, LeVert and Allen both play for the Cleveland Cavaliers, who are 4 ½ games ahead of Brooklyn. The Nets mortgaged their future to acquire an enigma (Irving), a star whose body is breaking down (Durant), and a disgruntled star (Harden). To try and salvage the team after those moves, they’ve traded Harden for another disgruntled star in Simmons, who hasn’t played since last summer. James Harden, Kyrie Irving Had Friction As Teammates This Season When the Brooklyn Nets played at the Cleveland Cavaliers on January 17th, Kyrie Irving lit some sage in their locker room before the game. Irving does this on occasion and his history in Cleveland could have contributed to the ritual. According to sources who were in the locker room at the time, Harden looked at Irving in a perplexed way. “Definitely a weird vibe between them,” one source said. “You could tell Harden was annoyed, and Kyrie wasn’t feeling James.” Harden also appeared to be annoyed by Irving's status as a part time player when asked by the media. “I’mma give him the shot,” Harden once joked of Irving. A well-placed source says Irving was similarly eager to see Harden traded.
This is not going to work. Harden is a problem. If he can't make it in HOU, he was the problem. If he can't make it in BKN, he's still the problem. He keeps running and switching franchises hoping the grass is greener on the other side. His style of play doesn't work for a team interested in competing for a championship, that's the truth
This is not going to work. Harden is a problem. If he can't make it in HOU, he was the problem. If he can't make it in BKN, he's still the problem. He keeps running and switching franchises hoping the grass is greener on the other side. His style of play doesn't work for a team interested in competing for a championship, that's the truth
Just for . . .you know . .comparison sake Who else did as good or better than Harden during his Houston Years . . .not named LeBron or KD? Who *exactly* Not named KD/LeBron could have done better with those Houston Teams? Rocket River
