I will say this: prior I thought Stone should get up until the 2023 season to prove himself and then go from there. However if we come short this trade deadline like last year then I think this Summer it’s time to bring in a new GM. The reason is obviously something is broken with our relationships with other front offices around the league and our credibility. Having a new GM means teams will contact that new GM at least out of curiosity and it gives us a chance for a reset. These next two years are just wayyyy too important to just sit idle while something that much of a hindrance is having such a ripple affect at such an important time. Ask yourself this… would Eric Gordon and Christian Wood still play for the Oklahoma City Thunder?
Standing pat or Stand with Pat? Our new Saint Patrick’s Day will be the trade deadline day when Pat will make a miraculous roster move!
Morey was a radical thinker and did not tolerate the midrange game. And he wasn't exactly loved among his colleague executives which made trading harder in the end.
If the difference between green and mobley continues to grow (after a full year of evaluation), and bkn pick tanks. Those 2 things from the past combined with inactivity this year should absolutely have him in the hot seat. So far his best moves have been Tate ( morey influence ), senguin, and Christopher it seems.
I think harden trade also sort of made him think he can fleece anyone so he didn't pull trigger on good deals bc he wanted the great deal and ended up with nothing
Yeah but those picks are likely due to really good scouting from our draft scouts. I don’t think a GM is watching that much film and digging that deep into guys like JC and Sengun. He’s getting that influence from the draft guys and scouts. I think we have a solid team in the front office doing that work. With Green, that was likely had too many eyes and ears at the top talking themselves into him instead of letting the draft team make their case. You have to assume the evaluation process was much different than other players and that probably tainted the process a bit. I don’t think we need to change that much but a new GM might be the best thing just to reset relationships around the league.
I am actually pretty scared of the notion that Tilman wants to surround himself with Yes men and not the best people.
I'm convinced people just crave the dopamine hit of a Wojbomb. To suggest not being able to trade a role player for a pick that will likely be 27-30 in the 2024 draft is a fireable offense is absolutely ridiculous. Time to take a breather and get some new perspective.
I can’t stand Tillfart myself but I gotta admit I don’t think our front office problem has Tillman type of problems. I doubt he’s actually the one making the calls and the guy who owns and quarterbacks our relationships with other GM’s. That’s the problem when it comes to these trade conundrums. Something they are doing is icing those relationships and making teams say the Rockets are worth holding out for and aren’t worth continuing to talk with. That’s a huge freaking problem.
We think alike. Furthermore I also think the whole league is being extra cautious of not being fleeced and are lowballing offers. I think the Sactown deal could actually be a Win win situation for both teams. Sabonis is that good and his facilitating could bring back the Princeton Offense once again. Haliburton is pretty good, no need for me to go into that. We could see more and more deals where both GMs get what they want.
Of course that’s true, but you are leaving out context of the situation. If Stone comes up empty handed on EG then this will be two years in a row that his front office has leaked out a lie to the media to play a hand he didn’t have. Not to mention the context of teams moving on worse players than EG with similarly structured deals that Stone is obviously pursuing days before the deadline instead of continuing engagement. To me it’s less about the pick this trade deadline and the gamblers dopamine dump of a Woj bomb and more about me doing a long term 3 year evaluation of this front office’s position to put this team back on the map by 2025. I hope I’m wrong but I do not feel good about Stone as our GM and think having a new head of the snake might be warranted… but I’m willing to see what Stone does the next 8 hours and during the draft this Summer. I just see red lights flashing bright.
When did Houston leak they had a first round pick on the table for Eric Gordon to the media? Kelly Iko has been telling us for two weeks now it's likely he stays. Nobody wanted to listen.
As a fan of 29 other teams, it must be absolutely hilarious knowing this pompous and spoilt kid makes personnel decisions. As a Rockets fan, i'd laugh if it didn't hurt so bad. Is it sinking in for people yet how truly f*cked this franchise is? Remember. When daddy Tilman goes, this franchise goes down to his kids and his kids' kids. I just shuddered.
I don't think Cam Reddish can packaged in a trade with another player because of how recently he was acquired. But I am sure there are ways that this deal could end up working.
Yeah, I think the whole "Rockets leaked that they definitely had a first round pick for Gordon" thing is pretty presumptuous. You cannot believe every rumor this time of year. Right now Windhorst and Woj are saying polar opposite things about a Harden for Simmons swap for the world's largest sports network. I don't think journalists are lying, but we also don't know who their sources are and how close those sources are to the team. At the end of the day, if their goal really is to get future firsts anyway, then moving Gordon now isn't a necessity. That being said, they need to get something for him before his contract is up, and he peaked in value this season. If he ends up playing out his contract, that's a failure, but I'm not going to be devastated if he's not moved today. I know we all get excited by the trade deadline, but you guys should learned by now to expect disappointment.
Anybody have Stone’s digits? Don’t skimp on me. I need the area code too. Anyway I woke up, couldn’t go back to sleep and I need someone to talk to. Mr Stone would really help out. I know he would. His tweeter wife or tweeter friend John works too. Just need some telephone numbers 2 cf ladies and 25,000 cf gentlemen.
Fans ready to bring their pitchforks out at Toyota and start selling season tickets for not trading EG for the late first, when Stone has had leaks of wanting more, as he should. Flexibility is king and they haven’t even thought about the idea of something bigger… EG expiring, Wood expiring, picks, etc for a true star player. We have ammo but fans think a late first has value
There is still hope that if it gets passed down to the next kid, one would eventually get tired and sell it.
I think it was around the 6th when it was reported that the Rockets have been telling teams they have 2 deals for EG for FRPs. I don’t think I need to spend time digging into last years embarrassment when Woj went public with an obvious Rockets FO lie about the FRP we supposedly had for Oladipo. Kelly Iko is I’m sure correct in his assessment that they don’t have the deal they have lied about having. It’s not entirely clear to me why there’s an immediate shut down to opening the door to some mild criticism here. These are two really really important years for this franchise to rebuild and maybe it’s at least worth a second of thought to evaluate the GM instead of treating him as though he can do no wrong. It’s at least worth a damn conversation.
