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Forcing children to wear a mask is child abuse. The Left failed children.

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    So you would want children to wear masks forever, then?

    Because Covid is not going away, ever.

    If your wife views children merely as selfish vectors of disease - time for a job change?

    The mask mandates for children will fall, everywhere - soon.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    They could have simply said "as an almost 50 year old..."

    But it's the Federalist, so of course they will cite a black, woman Democrat weight and race.
     
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    lol. Is Abrams not a woman of color? Has Abrams not made being a woman of color part of her brand? Has Abrams not made use of the phrase “woman of color” for political purposes?

    seems to me one could make the argument that Abrams herself is a professional “Woman of Color”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...den-didnt-pick-a-woman-of-color-for-vp-201209
     
  6. DaDakota

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    I would want kids to wear masks until they are vaccinated, I would have vaccination cards, and would allow restaurants and businesses to refuse service if you didn't have one, I would force unvaccinated children and parents to wear a mask until they are vaccinated.

    And once the virus mitigates itself as it looks like it is doing now, I would relax those regulations.

    DD
     
  7. AroundTheWorld

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    Agree to disagree.

    You do realize that the vaccination does not provide sterile immunity? So the logic of "wearing masks until they are vaccinated" doesn't really hold, because they would still be passing it on.
     
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    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/02/08/opinion/lift-school-mask-mandate/

    EDITORIAL
    Lift the school mask mandate
    It’s time for kids to breathe easier.
    By The Editorial BoardUpdated February 8, 2022, 5:13 p.m.

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    First-grade student Citlaly Luna Osorio whispers to classmate Genevie Lewis, "we can share crayons" at the Parlin School in Everett on Nov. 19, 2001.DAVID L. RYAN/GLOBE STAFF
    This week Governor Phillip D. Murphy of New Jersey announced his state will no longer require students and staff to wear masks in school, starting the second week of March. Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont made a similar announcement hours later. And Pennsylvania rescinded its mask mandate last month.

    On Monday, Governor Baker strongly hinted that Massachusetts will be next, telling reporters that Education Commissioner Jeffrey Riley “will have more to say” on the matter at “some point in the not-too-distant future.” The plan, it seems, is to allow the mask mandate to expire at the end of the month rather than extending it again.

    And that’s the right plan.

    Masks have served as an important line of defense against COVID-19. But the facts on the ground clearly warrant a shift in policy. The Omicron variant is in retreat. Massachusetts is one of the most vaccinated states in the union. And after months and months of muffled conversation, kids deserve a chance to take off the mask and interact with their teachers and peers in a healthier way.

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    The Baker administration could face some blowback; pandemic-era education policy has been a minefield for state officials. Teachers unions have been understandably worried about the health of their members. Parents have had real concern about their kids. Last month, hundreds of Boston students staged walkouts, calling for a return to remote learning at the height of the Omicron scare. And if the mask mandate is relaxed, some will undoubtedly cry foul.

    But the data have consistently shown that schools are safer than the doomsday predictions would have it. Just this week, a new paper by a group of Massachusetts doctors for the journal Pediatrics evaluating the state’s “test to stay” program, which allows unvaccinated children exposed to COVID to remain in school if they continually test negative, shows this population remained largely disease-free during a 13-week study period last fall — with only 2.9 percent testing positive.

    Lifting the mask mandate will undoubtedly add a new level of risk. But the state can’t wait forever. Under current rules, local officials can only apply for a waiver from the mandate if they can demonstrate that 80 percent of students and staff in a building are vaccinated. And some schools, it’s clear, will never reach that threshold — particularly those with large numbers of disadvantaged kids.

    Dr. Westyn Branch-Elliman, an infectious disease specialist and associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School who helped develop the state’s mask policy, says going mask-free will pose a psychological challenge. Masks are a visible sign of protection, while vaccinations, though “highly, highly effective for preventing severe disease,” are “not something we can see on a daily basis.” But we’ll need to learn to trust in the vaccines and the treatments that have been developed for the sick if we’re going to “pave a path towards normalcy for our kids,” Branch-Elliman said.

    That doesn’t mean schools will get all the way back to where they were before the pandemic. Some students and staff will want to keep their KN95s in place even after the mandate is lifted. They may be worried about medical conditions that leave them especially vulnerable to COVID or about passing the disease to frail relatives at home.

    It will be incumbent on schools all over Massachusetts to build a culture that respects the decisions of mask-wearers.

    Hopefully, Omicron will be the pandemic’s final major surge. But schools can’t count on that. At the state level, officials should be thinking about what might trigger a reinstatement of the mask mandate — or at least, a recommendation that districts tighten the rules again. Issuing specific guidance doesn’t make much sense now, given how unpredictable COVID has been. Better to keep a close eye on how new variants unfold. But broadly speaking, an approach that focuses on hospitalizations — rather than simple case counts — makes the most sense. As the Omicron experience suggested, it’s possible, at least, that new variants will cause relatively mild illness. And we’re going to have to learn to live with that sort of thing. To adapt.

    For elementary-school-age kids, the pandemic has dominated a fifth, or a quarter, or even a third of their lives.

    It’s time for them to breathe easier.

    Editorials represent the views of the Boston Globe Editorial Board. Follow us on Twitter at @GlobeOpinion.
     
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    Forcing a child to wear a mask is not child abuse.

    There are good reasons to lift mask requirements for students in schools, and there may be good reasons to retain them if hospitals are being overwhelmed in a given community. But the bar needs to be higher for imposing mask requirements in a school. That said, if you can’t find teachers willing to come to school then none of this works.
     
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    This is not about the kids, this is about adults whining.....nothing more.

    DD
     
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    Once masks for children will finally be optional everywhere (soon), you will have to accept that most children will stop wearing them.

    And the world will not end because of it.
     
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    I have a couple of young kids age 2/4 too young for vaccination and I am pretty worried about them getting Covid due to medium and longer term effects like lung damage, loss of taste, etc. I would certainly prefer masks be worn if at all reasonable to do so, and in my experience age 3 is about when they can be worn without too much fussing. I certainly do not think of it as child abuse.
     
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    Agreed but in this case ( dramatic music)it is the lefts fault and you are failing children
     
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    If you think it's not a problem, you can make them wear FFP3 masks all day. Just don't expect everyone else's children to do it as well.
     

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