You misunderstood the point of mentioning Ingles and Rubio. I brought them up because they are expirings right now. Their teams didn't get positive value for them, they were just filler that were added to picks. I get the point of expirings. You can trade them for long term cap relief. But that's useless when OKC can do that without sending anyone back at all.
Not anything negative. Stone can get all the blame for Thies and if Green is a bust. It's just about the trade deadline. Every single one we have had since Tillman took over has been about cost cutting and trading away first round picks for luxury tax savings. Why anyone thinks something different will happen is funny. He wouldn't spend when we were good to better the team why would he do it for this terrible roster. If anything Gordon will be traded for a second round pick and 5 million dollars.
Wall + Theis is a good move for the Lakers They need both a PG distributor and a mobile big man. Wall was about 37% in Ast% last year without a good PnR big man that can actually set a pick....and in the 40+% range in Ast% when he had Gortat. LeBron and AD can both set some wicked picks. Theis is serviceable as that Roll Man in PnR. Allows AD to concentrate mostly on offense as Theis does the dirty work. Doesn't need to get all the rebounds or all the blocks. Just some rebounds and some blocks. Run the court hard. Wall, AD, LeBron could bring out the best in Theis. If it's THT and Westbrook then I could settle for that. I don't see a future for THT in Houston but we can flip him for a second rounder later. I personally would rather have Nunn on a try out basis to see if he is PG material. Edited: I see Nunn has player option for next season
People wanting low 1st round draft picks for players is kinda crazy... How often does that draft pick be better than what you give up? And accumulating all these late rd picks won't get you any closer to where you're hoping to go unless the team is pretty good and relatively young at the time like the 2010s Spurs.. They had Duncan , Parker, and Ginobli all in their primes... And you see where they are without them... They presently have good players but the team is in purgatory... When you're already rebuilding on the fly, you don't have time to wait on 3/4 yr projects in that window IMO.. You need proven, reliable players to stabilize the rebuild ..
No, but can we stop pretending those where somehow valuable assets, the only thing the Rockets missed out was maybe a 1st round pick(levert). Allen would have been maxed out, meaning no Sengun and Allen on a max contract is depreciated value no matter how good he was, since it would require salary matching and eliminating a bunch teams in trading for him. Levert is a fine player, but often injured and doesn’t really move the needle as Indiana found that out. IMO all these moves would have been lateral at best
The picks are just more assets to group together with maybe a player or two to get a better player or fit for your team. We used multiple picks to move up for Sengun.
Parker and Ginobili were both late picks. Just throwing darts at the board and hoping one sticks. The more darts you have the greater your odds are.
picks can be accumulated and packaged in a trade down the road, we don’t have to use them to draft a player…we used the protected picks we got from Washington and Detroit to trade for Sengun who CF acts like is the next coming of Pau Gasol Eric Gordon serves no purpose here…he makes no difference and has just 1 more year left on his deal
I feel you.. I'm just speaking on those that think accumulating picks to get talent ... aka the Jokic argument ... Yes it happens but not often..
