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Update: Canadian Truckers Rule : AroundtheWorld > ScamFaker

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Jan 28, 2022.

  1. tinman

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    I want to inform the D&D

    that there are no Republicans or Democrats or FoxNews or CNN (Atlanta base) in Canada

    It's a different country.

    They don't put ketchup on the fries
    @Os Trigonum
     
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    Do it Canadians and we’ll get rid of our worthless Brandon too. Freedom baby!
     
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    The truckers are right.

    Also gofundme turns out to be a scam site that should be shut down.
     
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    video interview at link

    "I am a 21-year-old, I am just barely an adult. I can’t believe that it’s come to this point where people are asking me how I think it should end.”

    Trucker protest: Meet the 21-year-old woman who got the honking to stop in downtown Ottawa | CTV News

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    In the end, it wasn’t the might of the city bureaucracy or law enforcement who got the constant blaring of truck horns to stop after more than week of terrorizing downtown Ottawa residents.

    It was a 21-year-old resident of Centretown who had simply had enough.

    “This situation, quite frankly, really ruffled my feathers,” Zexi Li, the lead plaintiff in a proposed class-action lawsuit told CTV Morning Live on Tuesday. “I really, really felt that no matter what, I had to do something.”

    “If that something is to be a voice and be a face—and even be even a target—for people to understand what really is going on here, I was more than willing to do so.”

    An Ontario Superior Court judge granted a 10-day injunction on Monday ordering an end to the incessant honking by truckers parked on downtown streets. Anyone who violates the injunction could be found in contempt, which brings stiffer penalties than regular bylaw charges.

    “It’s a big win, but it’s also a baby step,” Li said. “We really did deserve some peace and we’re glad to have some, at least for the next 10 days.”

    Li said she has found the noise of the convoy protesters “unbearable.”

    “I don’t even have the worst of it,” she said. “There are so many people that live in my neighbourhood that can’t live here anymore, that have to have escape their own home, and that quite frankly is completely unacceptable.”

    Christine Johnson, a lawyer with Champ and Associates and co-counsel in the matter, told CTV’s Power Play that Li has suffered online abuse because of the lawsuit.

    “While we’ve had an outpouring of support from many in the community, across the country, both towards our law firm and our very brave client we represent, she’s had also received a lot of vile hatred both directed at her,” Johnson said.

    “It takes a lot of courage, as you can imagine, for a young woman to stand up on behalf of her neighbours … It’s been stressful. It’s been overwhelming and I think she felt as though it was the right thing to do.”

    Li said she is also receiving a lot of messages of support from people who sympathetic to what Centretown residents are going through.

    Asked how she thinks the trucker protest should be brought to an end, Li said she is surprised the situation has reached the point where her opinion on that is being sought.

    “I think it’s very interesting that my opinion is asked. Because while I do understand it, at the end of the day, I am a 21-year-old, I am just barely an adult. I can’t believe that it’s come to this point where people are asking me how I think it should end.”

    Li did say she agrees with the course Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has taken in not meeting with the convoy leaders.

    “I fully agree that these people cannot be negotiated with,” she said.

    The proposed class-action lawsuit is seeking $9.8 million in damages on behalf of Centretown residents. The next hearing, on whether the injunction will be extended, is set for Feb. 16.

    “I can only hope that some kind of reparations will be seen for people in my community, and that at the very least people recognize the severity of what’s going on here and what has happened to us,” Li said.

    “A lot of people have trauma because of this now, and it’s trauma that I personally don’t think should have ever happened to them.”
     
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    This just in, soyboy Trudeau got his gay ass handed to him. Negative test will end on Monday, masks mandates will end on February 28th in Saskatchewan. Go Canucks go. Freedom baby!
     
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    So blocking traffic and defacing statues over BLM protests is bad and there should be laws against those.
    https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/resear...21/06/21/eight-states-enact-anti-protest-laws
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    New laws enacted in Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Oklahoma and Tennessee this year increase penalties for blocking traffic, tearing down monuments and other unlawful behavior during a protest or riot. The bills typically define “riot” as a gathering of three or more people that threatens public safety.

    New Arkansas, Kansas and Montana laws increase penalties for protesting near oil and gas pipelines and other infrastructure. And an Alabama law will allow cities in Lauderdale County, where protestors called for the removal of a Confederate statue, to control where protests occur and to charge protest organizers permit fees.

    Republican bill sponsors and police groups say increasing penalties for crimes committed during a protest will help prevent violence and protect law enforcement officers. But civil rights groups and Democrats say the heightened penalties will chill First Amendment rights to free speech and peaceful assembly, and could be used to disproportionately arrest people of color.

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, signed his state’s new law in April surrounded by GOP lawmakers and law enforcement officers."

    But blocking traffic and defacing statues over vaccine mandates is good?
    https://floridapolitics.com/archives/493557-truck-yeah-desantis/
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    Rather, DeSantis was hailing a “freedom convoy” of unvaccinated truck drivers in Canada, “driving cross country to protest the authoritarian edicts” requiring full inoculation against COVID-19.

    “People have realized if they don’t speak up and demand their freedoms, these tyrants will never give back the power they have seized,” DeSantis maintained, asserting a strong stand with “freedom fighters everywhere.”"
     
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    It doesn't make sense, they are amongst the highest vaccinated countries in the world voulantarily, their death rate is a 3rd of what the US's is, the omicron wave has already run through and well peaked in both cases and hospitalizations

    I get a lot of Canadians were mad that a disproportionate rate of hospitalizations in the Omicron wave were unvaccinated people, but now all those people have covid antibodies with substantial protection equal to vaccination going forward, why do a full-court press when virtually everybody has been vaccinated or infected at this point... what minuscule number of people don't have any antibodies and where does the justification come for these large ordeals (at this point)?

    Then on top of that whole situation, is bodily autonomy a human right? Should the state be fining people or firing people for not being vaccinated (people who likely have a prior infection), should people be segregated over this?

    Just seems like a whole lot of foot shooting for no good reason.
     
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    Most certainly a “ Honey trap babe”.
     
  15. tinman

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    Will this stop me ordering Canadian Bacon and Pineapple Pizzas?
     
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    Hackery and big $.

    For those unaware of Grid news: "Overall, we rate Grid News Left-Center Biased based on editorial positions that moderately favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record."

    The hacked account and suspicious donations behind the Canadian trucker protests – Grid News

    Hundreds of people have been camped out in the icy streets of Ottawa, Canada’s capital city, for more than a week, occupying the area around the nation’s government buildings. It’s a protest ostensibly stemming from some Canadian cross-border truckers’ objections to a Canadian requirement that those who cross the border be vaccinated against covid-19.

    But a close look at several “Freedom Convoy” groups and crowdfunding efforts online shows the involvement of anonymous actors, deep-pocketed non-Canadian donors and prominent U.S. right-wing political figures.

    Some of the largest Facebook groups responsible for galvanizing support, both ideological and financial, appeared to have been administered through a stolen account, Grid has found.


    The protests are not organized by Canadian trucking unions, the largest of which has come out against the protests. They also do not appear to reflect the values of most Canadians or most Canadian truckers: More than 80 percent of the Canadian public is vaccinated, including almost 90 percent of truckers, according to Canada’s minister of transport.

    The speed at which the movement has raised millions of dollars raises red flags. A now-shuttered GoFundMe page raised nearly $8 million USD; a replacement crowdfunding campaign, on a self-described Christian platform called GiveSendGo, had raised more than $6 million by Tuesday morning, after just three days, with many donations of four and five figures.

    The movement smacks of U.S. influence, said Gordon Pennycook, a behavioral scientist at the University of Regina who studies disinformation. “For sure, 100 percent, a large part of this is driven by cultural narratives that have emerged from the United States,” he said.

    Right-wing politicians across the United States have praised and promoted this small group. “The Canadian truckers … who are resisting bravely these lawless mandates and doing more to defend American freedom than our own leaders, by far, and we want those great Canadian truckers to know that we are with them all the way!” former president Donald Trump said at a Texas rally on Jan. 29.

    That doesn’t mean that many of the protesters on the ground aren’t true believers — whether about vaccine mandates, broader right-wing causes or even more extreme ideologies, including white nationalism.

    “They’re driven by a very deep connection to a cause that they feel to be just,” Pennycook said. “They’re acting in accordance with their attitudes and values, and it just so happens to be the case that a lot of the beliefs that they hold probably aren’t rooted in good evidence. There’s a lot of conspiratorial thinking and distrust of good sources and reliable sources.”

    A hacked Facebook account is behind some of the organizing
    The entity behind some of the largest Facebook groups supporting the protests is an unknown person or persons who used the Facebook account of a Missouri woman. She says her account on the platform was hacked and stolen.

    The account launched a handful of Facebook groups for the protest, all between Jan. 26 and 28, before the trucker convoy reached Ottawa. With a combined following of more than 340,000 members and more than 7,500 posts, the group names were variations on a theme: “Convoy to Ottawa 2022,” “Convoy for Freedom 2022,” “Freedom Convoy/Ottawa 2022 for Canada,” “Freedom Convoy 2022” and “2022 Official Freedom Convoy to Ottawa.”

    Facebook groups are organized by administrators. Grid found that the only administrator account for these groups belonged to the Missouri woman. Reached briefly by phone on Monday, she said her account was hacked and she was not involved with the groups.

    “Someone stole my identity on Facebook,” she said. “I don’t know how they [did] it.”

    The woman, whom Grid is not naming because she is the victim of apparent identity theft, said her daughter set up a new account for her. A new Facebook account with the woman’s name appeared in October 2021 with the post: “New account. Last one got hacked.”

    The groups were disabled Monday afternoon as Grid was reporting this story. Facebook did not immediately respond to questions about the hacked account. “We continue to see scammers latch onto any hot-button issue that draws people’s attention, including the ongoing protests,” Margarita Franklin, a spokeswoman for Facebook’s parent company, Meta, said in a statement to media outlets on Monday.

    Even as Facebook groups have been taken down, the conversation is alive on Telegram, a United Arab Emirates-based social media platform that claims 500 million users worldwide. Channels cheering on the protests display thousands of subscribed followers, although it is possible to artificially inflate Telegram subscriber numbers. Inside these channels, users share photos and videos and trade misinformation about covid-19 and about the strength of their movement, such as the debunked claim that Canadian armed forces have pledged “allegiance to the people.”


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    Everyone feels this way here. Polls show that Canadians largely support gradually lifting restrictions (which is already happening outside of Quebec). Here in Ontario, we are back to where we were before Omicron in terms of restrictions. And I assume that the vaccine passport here will probably be gone by March. The government has repeatedly signaled that it is going away. The only province that seems to want to hold on to restrictions is Quebec but they also have wildly different politics than the rest of the country.

    But these same polls also show that a substantial majority (70+ percent) disapprove of these convoys. In fact, every demographic group in every province opposes the convoy. These "truckers" are doing themselves no favor and the government doesn't want to be seen caving to these "protestors" so they're actively slowing the process of lifting restrictions as a result. And now its coming out how much foreign money is probably funding these people so the governments are really digging in.

    Thanks to these bafoons we probably will be stuck under covid restrictions longer than we otherwise would have.
     
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