Brian Flores sues NFL for racism, got text messages as proof

But Tanking is real. It's analytics. You can't pretend it isn't happening. The truth is the truth. But to think it's a black only thing is ridiculous. All teams think about it. Some do it. But it is something white coaches, and white quarterbacks, and all players of every race have dealt with for a long time because that is how the NFL draft works.

 

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How is this not illegal fixing of games?
A kid cannot go to the league for point shaving but This guy can still own a Team?

*IF* Flores did take the money and lost those games
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USED AGAINST HIM FOR THE REST OF HIS CAREERs
"Well look at his record. . . he's more mediocre than even Jeff Fisher."

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Flores is the one race-baiting

 

Well, we're not talking about tanking really though. Whoever coaches the Texans next knows the team is bad. They know they would be lucky to win 6 games next year. That's not the issue here, that some teams aren't good enough to do anything but lose isn't the issue. But Flores case here...how would you feel if Flores started off the season 2-1 and all of a sudden the owner tells him "Hey, I give you 100k to lose games." that's pretty sick.

There is a MASSIVE difference if the owner is paying coaches to lose games. To go out and intentionally lose games...that does cross a line. I mean, if it is true that tweet is right, I think the government does get involved because you are throwing games for a league that relies on betting as part of its revenue. Do you not see how that is an issue?

Also, at this point, it doesn't matter if it is a black or white thing. It being a thing at all is terrible...but so far, only black coaches have come out and said they were offered incentives to lose games. Now, Flores says coaches told him they were told the same thing, how many, I guess time will tell...

But the point isn't tanking, people are confusing tanking here. Tanking can only be done by the GM or Owner, by making a team weak enough that it's hard to win. The actual participants in the game are not supposed to tank though. The players and coaches are supposed to try and win every game they participate in...but a coach could still tank by playing a rookie who isn't ready.

Again, that's fine...but when you have owners offering money to lose games? Yeah, that's a big deal. If it happens to be only black coaches that have received this offer...then that's horrible doubly for the race angle but it would still be horrible regardless.

I mean, this is match fixing. The NFL has to come down pretty hard on this and if there is evidence to these claims I figure there will be some NFL teams up for sale...

 

NBA teams throw games all the time, why does it matter that nfl teams do it? The warriors were intentionally playing their worst players 48 minutes to make sure they kept the pick to get Klay, should that owner and gm and everyone be banned for throwing games?

 

If you think this is only about the tanking, you are missing a lot.

The tanking is not the racial part.

 

The inference is really nasty. Essentially teams hire black coaches when they want to tank and know the coach won’t last long enough to be around when the team is good. When the team is good a white coach gets the job…. It’s a pretty horrible allegation if true.

 

Yeah a lot of white people I know are not getting it. The allegation is that the owners and GM’s knew they needed to hire black coaches, so they hire black coaches when the team is tanking knowing full well they can hire a white coach when the team is ready to win. It shows an incredible lack of respect for the ability of black coaches. It’s extremely racist, IMO it’s worse than an owner saying “No ******* coaching my team” because at least you know where you stand.

 

Exactly.

The Bienemy situation really opened my eyes, there is no way if he was white he would not have gotten a job by now.

 

But if we create a strawman and pretend it is, then it's easier to dismiss.

 

After the Rooney Rule every black guy that had an interview must have thought, 'am I just here so they don't get fined?'

 

Dude must have got paid some serious $$ going 1-31 then.

Though if I had that record I would probably claim the same thing.

 

Rooney rule is flawed, but there’s no reason there aren’t more black coaches when the majority of players are black.

 

Ben Shapiro is a professional jockey. He knows more about sports than you.

 

Flores is on CNN's Don Lemon show speaking out against "bridge coaches." Teams hiring a coach to tank while not giving that coach the resources they need only to fire them when they want to be competitive. Often this is done to a black coach. Does that remind you of someone?

 

yeah poor Culley

 

I think everybody gets it, but nobody believes it because every team has a tanking thread each and every year, in every league, regardless of race. So to believe teams are tanking on purpose during a black coaches reign only is far-fetched. Silas is in the same situation. It sucks. But it's not because he's black, it's because the Rockets wanted Green and Banchero. Shoot, the Giants went to a victory formation down 6 in the 3rd quarter three times against the Redskins, but the coach was white. They were blatantly tanking with a White coach and they are in the lawsuit.

 

ESPN is really frothing over this lawsuit -- I still haven't heard a fair analysis of it yet.