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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Dec 10, 2021.

  1. jiggyfly

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    Why does it have to either or?

    If he can't play somewhere in between, he is not long for the NBA.
     
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    Large leaps? KPJ hasn’t made much of a leap. KJ gets hustle points and pretty much looks the same as last season.
    JC has made progress nicely, but is that a function of the staff or individual training?

    Both Green and Sengun are put in terrible positions, there is no semblance of a true offense. Sengun has regressed a ridiculous amount, specially on the defensive side. That is coaching, period.
     
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    Outside of shooting the 3 better, KPJ is worse or the same as last year.
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    So it can't be because the player now has a scouting report on him or that he still cannot stop fouling, so he can get more minutes?

    How can coaching may a player regress, are they coaching him to do something different?
     
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    Absolutely, specifically on the defensive side.

    Also, he has stopped fouling.

    I’m not trying to make excuses for him. He’s not playing good, looks lost and no confidence. Green has been even worse in that aspect.
    For someone as skilled as Sengun, it’s not easily lost. Right now he is a square peg in a round hole for this team. The team is not fundamentally sound, too iso heavy with no off ball movement.
     
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  7. aaquaa

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    Alpi will learn to play "better" by being on court, and 12 min.s don't cut it.

    Look, people:

    1st Quarter: 00:57.2 Alperen Sengun enters the game for Christian Wood - 57.2 SEC.S
    2nd Quarter: 05:39.0 Christian Wood enters the game for Alperen Sengun - 6 MIN 21 SEC.S
    3rd Quarter: 01:51.0 Alperen Sengun enters the game for Christian Wood - 1 MIN 51 SEC.S
    4th Quarter: 08:44.0 Jae'Sean Tate enters the game for Alperen Sengun - 3 MIN 16 SEC.S

    You give a player 12 minutes on court and you divide that time into 4 little pieces?
    How can anyone get into rhythm with that kind of time management??
    What the f**k is dumba55 Silas trying to do??
     
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  9. hakeem94

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    this is what silas trying to do
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    hes making alpi unwatchable just like this pic is hard to watch its hard to play in small spurts
     
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  10. hakeem94

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    if i am alpi i am asking for a trade...hes good player...and need to go somewhere where he can play... even going back to europe is better than rotting here on the becnh...

    of course hes not playing good when the entire league got triple or double playing time he got since start of the season...playing time is mother of a good player... you dont become good at riding bycicle by practicing on stationary bike at home or by reading a book on how to ride a bicycle...you become good and keep that level of play BY PLAYING ONLY...
     
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    I know I'll get flamed here for "defending Silas" but this is not unusual and pretty much how every NBA team handles substitutions with starters and bench players. Sengun is only there to be a backup, he's there to give Wood rest. This minutes distribution isn't designed to help or develop Sengun, which is the way you're looking at it. You have your one guy that is your starter, and you keep him out there as much as you possibly can. When the starter needs to rest, you put in "backup guy" until "starter guy" is ready to get back in the game. For the rockets this year at the center position, Wood is "starter guy" and Sengun is "backup guy."

    If you want to disagree with treating Sengun as a backup, I get it, but lets not act like the coach is a "dumbass" for having some weird out of the box substitution pattern. This is the standard way of doing things when you have a starter and a backup, and there's nothing wrong with it. Again, you can disagree with the assigned roles, but don't pretend like Silas is inventing some strange pattern that doesn't make any sense.
     
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    lol at Wood needing his minutes, god I can't wait for the deadline.
     
  13. aaquaa

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    OF COURSE I blame coaching!
    Remember way back when Sengun belonged to the core of youngsters that would take this team to another level?
    I got news: every one of them sucks right now, especially compared to what they could have been.
    Certainly they need playing time, which e.g. Green gets with no accountability whatsoever... but not Sengun.
    Sengun was the most developed, most experienced of that young group and now he sucks as well.
    OF COURSE I blame coaching!
    Whatever happened to developing rookies on the court? Come next year, will Silas just stick him in the starting lineup with 1/4 season's worth of experience? Or will the front office find another cheap veteran for the starting job? Or (God forbid) will Wood stay??
    He's worse off than at the beginning of the season, and for this
    OF COURSE I blame coaching!
    Backup guy my a55.
     
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    lol silas would make lebron play like a backup.. because hes too old and lack stamina

    btw didnt hear the stamina excuse for a while i wonder why is that?

    how come sengun is playing a lot worse now with more stamina then when he was huffing and puffing....
    bwhahahahahah!!

    ps On August 8, he made his summer league debut in an 84–76 win against the Cleveland Cavaliers where he posted 15 points, 15 rebounds, four blocks, three assists, and one steal in 27 minutes
     
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  15. hakeem94

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    alpi will got his playing time when its his time to be traded

    i wonder who is alpis agent? perehaps that has something to do with this s(h)itshow!
     
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    That's fine, then say that. Your post is criticizing the substitution pattern as if Silas invented some nonsensical pattern that has you bewildered. The substitution pattern is fine and straightforward, you just don't think Sengun should be a backup. So just say that.
     
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    Whether Wood gets traded or not, I am sure that we'll see a lot of stupid moves from Silas, and posters making up new excuses to justify the new situation.

    There is a simple fact, Sengun is playing worse, looks lost, lost his confidence, enthusiasm and joy in playing. If there is such a failure, somebody has to be responsible for it. And I do not see any significant improvement in the team or individual players enough to think that the problem is with Sengun. I see all the signs that the problem is with coaching.

    The problem with the minutes management is giving that much time to Wood. It does not result in better results, it does not improve the team. It does hypothetically increase his trade value, which I think is a very weak argument. It does one thing maybe, it saves Silas from complete embarrassment by providing some score without the need for coaching.

    Sengun is now mostly used for handoffs, which is not player development. He posts ups, and for some reasons there is much less movement from other players when he posts up (compared to earlier in the season).

    Silas is doing nothing to improve the team or the players individually. There should be more to coaching than putting a player on the court to increase his trade value. The only thing this team does is getting some players their stats and losing by 10 after a blowout and a fake comeback. And it just keeps doing the same. If on some night, the other team has a problem or rockets have extra scoring, than we might get a win.
     
  20. aaquaa

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    No, I don't think he should be a conventional backup. He's not cut out to be a role player. He's not a 2nd-tier veteran. He's 19 with a very high ceiling and is considered by many to be a potential cornerstone for this franchise.
    If we had centers like Joel Embiid and Deandre Jordan, I could understand the coach's (and your) point of view; however, that's not the case here at all.
    We're in a tanking season and wins are not of primary importance. So, coach should find a way to give Alpi more minutes.
    Play him. Develop him. Simple as that.
     
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