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Forcing children to wear a mask is child abuse. The Left failed children.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 31, 2022.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    NEWSFLASH!!!

    Countries with (leftist) universal healthcare have better health outcomes than countries without. I know, it's weird.
     
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    Not Peru and Bulgaria.
     
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    In case you guys haven't realized it in your bubble - England, Ireland, Scotland, the Netherlands, Denmark, Switzerland are ending all Covid measures very soon or have already ended them. That includes no more mandatory testing, no mask mandate, no vaccine passports, etc.
     
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    Many already agree with 5 and younger.

    The article said post omicron surge. Many here already agree to that. Seem sensible.

    What most of us don't think is sensible is - masking is child abuse. History don't agree with you either on that.
     
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    Said for effect. With a 2 year old over several hours, it is. With an 8 year old, it's still not right, but yeah.
     
  8. Amiga

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    I don't think a 2 years old would keep a mask on. There is also a real danger that 2 years can't communicate and tell adult the mask is causing a problem. So absolutely doesn't make any sense for a 2 years old (but like I said, many already agree and I'm one of them, that under 5 doesn't make sense).

    For older kids, it's just a mask. Not a big deal.
     
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    I agree with you, but people are getting thrown off planes because their 2 year old can't keep the mask on. Enacting crazy rules leads to crazy consequences.
     
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    This is a different topic and I wouldn't mind seeing a thread on this (surprise there hasn't been one yet). It's definitely an issue but not so clear cut as most people think it is. Here is one quick thing to think of - is it the lockdown? fear of covid itself? suffering from covid itself? job loss of caretaker? A simple correlation between lockdown and mental health is cool and all but not nearly good enough. There is now quite a bit of data where you can break this down a bit more.
     
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    That doesn't make sense to me. Planes have great ventilation system to 'suck out the darn covid virus' and these younger kids aren't next to other people - they are next to their caretaker so the risk of direct person-to-person exposure is from younger kids are very low.
     
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    I have data that compares the relative evolution of cases of depression in the population in general and in children specifically between different countries. German and Switzerland are very comparable countries. Except, one closed all the schools and kindergartens while the other one kept it all open. For the one that closed schools and kindergartens, depression in children went up by over 100 %. The other one, not at all.

    Just one example.
     
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    I was mainly referring to a report that I thought I read saying we don't have the logistics to vaccinate the entire population with boosters every 6 months. That could be outdated.

    I am triple vaxxed, and will take the 4th booster if recommended by the CDC to note. I'm definitely not anti-vaxx, anti-mask. Just don't think open-ended mask mandates make sense either.
     
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    That chart diverges when Sweden started vaccinations and they are over 90% vaccinated. I don't know what your point is. And Swedes were encouraged to social distance, it was just not mandated. Plus, they pretty much hate human contact :)
     
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    lol
     
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    LOL. They never had masks in schools (or anywhere else). People just barely wore them.
     
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    How about we compare Sweeden to their more geographically and demographically similar counterparts. The only difference is they had mask mandates and didn't rely on "herd immunity".

    Even if you want to compare the US w/ Sweeden, Sweeden still had a much higher vaccination rate which that alone explains the difference in mortality rate.

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    Also one of the problems with the US was that even during the first two waves many states and localities didn't have mask mandates. There never was a nationwide US mask mandate so if the claim is that countries Scandinavian countries had less masking than the US that might be true for some states but not for the whole US.
     
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    I never said that. You interpreted it that way by your own choice. You know that is not even remotely true.
     

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