Forcing children to wear a mask is child abuse. The Left failed children.

A elementary level understanding of how the human brain works would tell you that you get the exact opposite of your intended desire by gaslighting extreme hyperbole about a problem you care about. Like there literally is a phrase for that which is deeply rooted in Western culture..

"The boy who cried wolf".


You can type in complete sentences, so you already know this. That means you came in here not to solve a problem you believe is real. You came here to rusttle jimmies and be the center of attention.

 

What could possibly be crueler





Rocket River

 

If you use a cliche, at least get it right.

Everybody agrees putting kids in cages is wrong.

Not everybody agrees kids in masks is wrong.

Besides, even if you accept the "wrong" premise, one is way way way way way way worse. Obtuse comparison.

 

I read that argument and it's premised that driving on roads is a voluntary exercise so seatbelts aren't the same as vaccine or mask mandates because those are a "license for regular life" as though mask mandates and vaccine requirements were enforced no matter what you do or where you go. I can't speak for every single country but the 4 countries I've dealt with COVID restrictions since the pandemic none of them required you to wear a mask in every setting. Even in Singapore which had the strictest requirements you weren't required to wear a mask at home with your family or in a car driving by yourself. In terms of vaccine mandates while Singapore has instituted one recently there wasn't one when I was there in December, there wasn't one in the Netherlands and in the US there has never been one that everyone regardless of age or job have one. It's highly doubtful that Constitutionally one could be enacted.

For things like masking and vaccine those have all been dependent on situation. For example in my city there is currently an indoor masking requirement for places like stores, bars and restaurants. You are not legally compelled to go to any of those places so you aren't forced to wear a mask. Just as the argument above notes that driving on roads while is very convenient and useful and many do it daily it's a special condition. The same applies to shopping or having a drink at a restaurant. As such we already provide a lot of requirements for common good such as that you can't walk naked into a restaurant, bars have a legal duty not to serve alcohol to people who are visibly impaired or underage. So a mask requirement for those situations is far from some sudden imposition on freedom when we already recognize that those venues can and are regulated already.

TLDR wearing a mask and getting vaccinated is much more similar to seatbelt requirements as an overall part of public safety.

 

btw, what's wrong with school children wearing masks?

What is your source that masks don't prevent the spread of covid?

 

Nothing. it prevents spread of diseases so that's a negative for some people.

fox news.

 

No idea what this bubble is or what you are referring too.

My inkling here is that the Conservative tribe thinks there is some equivalent that exists on the other side, which I have never seen, or if it does exist, I do not consider myself a part of.

If you wanted to make a point to me, I'd advise to just open up an honest discussion and point to some research. My suspicion here, based on your thread title is that you were more interested in trying to take some sort of victory lap, which sabotages your position from the get go.

That aside, I have 3 and 5 year olds, and the 5 year old brought home Covid from school, 2 weeks ago. They did not mask in school. It cost me a business trip, and them 2 weeks of school, but other than that no real issues. I am fully vaccinated, so I wasn't all that concerned about it.

However, shortly after they were exposed at school, but before we knew, they visited my wife's 93 year old grandmother in a nursing home. She, like much of her generation, was not vaccinated, and that was a potential land mine. Thankfully they wore masks for the visit.

So yea, you have failed to make any valid points, with me at least, only painted yourself as sensation-ist.

The sad part is, I am completely open to new ways to approach Covid. Lets look at the research, lets figure it out. But you're delivery is just so childish its impossible to take you seriously or seriously consider you as a good faith actor in solving the issue.

 

You started from such an extreme position that people will automatically dismiss you. You only have yourself to blame.

 

Though we have disagreed on various topics, you've always struck me as a level-headed guy. Surprised you're this adamant. We're all tired of the need for constant vigilance, but if everyone had shown the proper vigilance from day-one, maybe we would not still be dealing with this ****.

Anecdotal, I know, but my grandkids (3 & 8) needed maybe 2 or 3 days to get used to the mask as part of their daily routine. Unfortunately, not all parents followed the rule and the school-aged grandkid got covid. Luckily, she was vaccinated and had a mild case and because she wore a mask did not infect her other immuno-compromised grandparents, parents, or her sister.

Did the mask fail or was it because of constant exposure to unmasked kids defeating the protection of the mask?

I lean toward the umasked kids being much more of a threat, to each other, and their families. Sadly, I can almost guarantee your school-aged child will contract it in school because there is not universal masking. Not because the masks do not offer protection.

 

He must be trying to get all his pent up anti-masking trumpism out in one big post before he gets put on everyone's ignore. Even throwing in the "you should mandate weight loss".

 

Lets compare Sweden with neighboring countries...

https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/norway-and-sweden/125378/

 

Here's the thing though, it's not just the risk for the child, which is less, or me, or you, since I/you are otherwise in good health with no underlying medical issues. But that minimal incapacitation of a child, could kill the immuno-comprised. I'm biased here, because my wife has underlying medical issues that makes it imperative to keep her covid infection-free. There are many others in her position and folks behaving too cavalierly with other people's lives is downright criminal.

I guess, that's why I feel your position (and others with it) are short-sighted and dangerous. End of soapbox, and I hope you and your family maintain your health.