Yeah, that's why I have to catch myself from going in too hard on Holmgren because I have not seen him enough and most of my questions are just because of his frame and size. I am just glad to have guys like this in the draft who all look like game changing players. I just don't understand why he is not featured more, if he has all that in his bag he should be doing more and not just the dirty work if they want to actually win a championship.
They typically share the wealth under Few. However in the case of Holmgren, he has to defer to Drew Timme who is a monster inside. So the spacing is off. They have Holmgren more on the perimeter for spacing reasons because he shoots better from 3 than Timme. However, as the season goes along you can see Gonzaga is going to Holmgren more.... he is up to 14/9/4 on the season while shooting 44% on 3's and 75% on 2's. Gonzaga runs a balances offense, they have only one player taking over 9 shots a game.... and while I agree with you, that they should maybe go to Holmgren more, they would likely push back that they lead all of college basketball in scoring and as a TEAM shoot 55% from the floor. They are by far the best offensive team in college basketball. Concerns that Holmgren won't be someone that you hand the ball to and he breaks guys off the dribble and scores are valid. I think he may eventually be someone that can pull up, but he isn't quick enough to be a point center or forward like LeBron or Magic... he is a long body that can shoot from the perimeter at a high rate and finish well inside.
I understand that in theory, but what about when Timme is off the court, or he is having a bad game? To win a championship they are going to need more than Timme and if Holmgren is that dynamic a offensive player he should be getting more plays ran for him as well. Didn't Baylor shut down Timme last year in the tittle game? I just believe you use all talent to its fullest, and Timme is not a guy that's going to put you on his back. I. have the same questions about Smith, but they seem to be getting him more involved in the offense, and that team is guard driven and those guards like to shoot. I guess my bottom line is if Holmgren is this talent that should be the #1 pick he should be doing more than a glorified 3 and D guy and I blame few for that and it will probably come back and bite him, it did against Alabama.
You may well be right, it could come back to bite them. Maybe Holmgren doesn’t show enough in practice to have plays ran for him? Tough to know for sure other than the fact they are such a ball moment based team that it limits someone getting a huge number of shots.
I may be off on what constitutes a blow by but Chet was hip for hip to the hole with a guard. I don’t get this “slow” thing. Specially for a center, dude is at minimum above average speed and quickness. Can’t look at his body, he’s long and gangly so it looks slow. You never see him get beat down court on full sprint or caught from behind
Chet’s statistical profile (+blk%, dreb%, 3p%) suggests he’s bust proof. His frame very well may limit his ceiling, but the guarantee of an elite role player is appealing - especially after the Rockets whiffed on Mobley.
Jabari continues to separate himself among the top3 IMO Watched him every second of court time vs Kentucky He had a stretch late 2nd half where he was smothering outside, skied a foot above the rim for a board, blocked his own man's shot flat-footed, then FINALLY got the ball and proceeded to immediately hit a pull-up 18ftr over 2 defenders Kessler and JD were both rolling all game getting dunks & 3s, to the point where Jabari only touched the ball inbounding, and was nothing more than a screen setter on OFF So frustrating considering he is clearly their best player While Chet and Paulo are surrounded by future NBA talent, Jabari is forced into role player status by Pearl while sometimes being the only next level Tiger on the court Still, he is so perfect for this Rockets team in so many ways, it's becoming impossible for me to picture the other 2 complimenting Green and Alpi nearly as well My favorite distinguishing Jabari trait is his manic competitive streak He is completely engaged, both ends, in any role The quick-twitch explosion is a close second, and a glaring advantage in Smith's favor over Chet & Paulo He's so sudden, and the contrast is stark Paulo is incapable of driving to the hoop without telegraphing his patented spin move somewhere along the way Chet is a generational defender, but seeing him get low into his perimeter stance makes him seem glacial next to Jabari
I would love to land Chet but I also think Sengun should be starting next season and defensively neither of those guys can guard 4s. Love Jabari but I’m back leaning Paolo.
Both Chet and Jabari can defend 4's. Significantly better than Banchero actually. Not sure what you're not seeing.
SHOULD have both. Rockets FO done fvcked up. I'd trade Green right now for another top 5 pick. And I'd draft either Chet or Jabari with Rockets top 5 FRP and take whoever is left between Ivey and Griffin with the Green FRP.
Calling it. Chet will go number 1 overall. Banchero is my least favorite of the 3 1a Chet 1b Jabari 3 Banchero
I had Mobley at no. 1, said Cade would be solid but disappoint, and didn't want to touch Green with a 10 foot pole. I don't think any scout had the same idea about all 3 players, but a lot of them felt the same way about 2/3. Once you separate the analysts that just cluster because they're bad at their jobs, the remaining concensus is pretty good. Chet is no Mobley. He'll have difficulty adjusting to the NBA. He's going to have problems guarding 4's, his inside game will look underdeveloped his rookie season, and he isn't nearly as versatile on either side of the ball as people seem to think. Nobody will regret drafting him no.1, but if they think they're getting Mobley 2.0, they'll he disappointed.
Paolo with another great game. Dude runs PNR offense in either role at an NBA level. Almost like a bigger Cade in what he brings to the table.
And? It's crazy that you get apoplectic if anybody says anything negative about Holmgren, but then you just randomly drop that in here. He is shooting almost 50% on the season, so I have no idea what point you were trying to make.
You mad? I was just pointing it out, his bread and butter is scoring. You nitpick Holmgren to death all the time. Paolo didn’t have an efficient scoring game but he had a nice facilitating game.
