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The state of the democratic party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Feb 27, 2021.

  1. T_Man

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    So why is she not voting for the plan?

    What does she want changed, Added or Deleted? I really have not heard her reasons..

    But it seems as if she was always a Republican in nature so why are the Democrats having a fit???

    The only problem I can truly see her having is that her political career is over, she can never run as a Democrat and win and she can't be trusted by the Republicans if she changes parties..... O Well..

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  2. rocketsjudoka

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    That is one of the frustrations with Sinema that she hasn't really stated her views and how she will negotiate on voting rights and BBB. That said she said she is for the voting rights bills but won't back a change in the filibuster to get them passed.
    Actually she's voted far more with the Democrats than she has with the GOP. I think another poster posted her voting record here that showed she was. While she won't change the filibuster she voted with Democrats on several crucial votes including making Schumer majority leader, the CARES packages, and twice to impeach Trump.
    Also she started her political career as a Green.
    I don't know whether she could win reelection or not. AZ has rewarded politicians who bucked their own parties. They reelected John McCain in 2016 even though he continued to criticize Trump and Trump carried the state. While Biden won AZ this past year it's not a blue state. It's some shade of purple.
     
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    3 theories on Democrats' silence about the Biden boom
    The economy has real strengths. Why aren't Democrats making hay?

    https://theweek.com/democrats/1009493/3-theories-on-democrats-silence-about-the-biden-boom

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    It's hard to say precisely what's going on, given that I am not privy to internal White House discussions, but I can outline three plausible factors.

    The first is that the Democratic Party and especially its intellectual elite are not at all agreed that the Biden boom is a good thing. For instance, at New York, Eric Levitz has a profile of economist Larry Summers, who has long been prominent in Democratic circles as a neoliberal deregulation guy and Machiavellian intriguer. Summers said back in March last year that the American Rescue Plan was too big, and now he's taking a victory lap.

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    The second plausible factor is the general character of the Democratic Party: timid, feckless, and above all desperate to avoid blame. For instance, rather than honestly investigating why the party did somewhat worse than predicted in the 2020 election, or even just shrugging and moving on, party leadership instantly started pointing fingers — mainly at Black Lives Matter activists. Today, we have a substantial cohort of Democratic elites who are anxiously fretting about inflation and blaming others for it rather than redirecting attention to legitimately good things about this economy.

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    That leads me to the final factor: Biden himself. Over its first year, his administration has given off an unmistakable sense of drift, as if there are different internal factions fighting over the reins of power without much in the way of overall leadership.
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  5. Os Trigonum

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    well, you know what they say . . . a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds

    Democrats Decried Dark Money. Then They Won With It in 2020.
    A New York Times analysis reveals how the left outdid the right at raising and spending millions from undisclosed donors to defeat Donald Trump and win power in Washington.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/29/us/politics/democrats-dark-money-donors.html

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    The findings reveal the growth and ascendancy of a shadow political infrastructure that is reshaping American politics, as megadonors to these nonprofits take advantage of loose disclosure laws to make multimillion-dollar outlays in total secrecy. Some good-government activists worry that the exploding role of undisclosed cash threatens to accelerate the erosion of trust in the country’s political system.

    Democrats’ newfound success in harnessing this funding also exposes the stark tension between their efforts to win elections and their commitment to curtail secretive political spending by the superrich.
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    Is the DNC Chairman looking for an exit door as the midterm elections approach?

    https://hotair.com/karen-townsend/2...oor-as-the-midterm-elections-approach-n445125

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    In an interview with NBC News, it is reported that there is a lot of tension between the Biden White House and the DNC chairman. The dysfunctional relationship is of concern to donors and Democrat lawmakers alike. Harrison complains that he isn’t given a big enough role in decision-making while the White House claims, essentially, that Harrison is not aggressively doing his job. Harrison is accused of cocooning himself at home in South Carolina instead of getting out and traveling around the country, supporting Biden’s legislative agenda and raising money for Democrats. Ironic, right? The Biden campaign insisted on keeping Bumbling Biden in the basement of his home (s) in Delaware all throughout the presidential campaign yet now criticizes Harrison for not getting out and traveling.

    Allegedly, Harrison feels “frustrated, isolated, and trapped” in a job he thought he wanted but may no longer.

    Key decisions for the committee are made by White House Deputy Chief of Staff Jen O’Malley Dillon, who speaks frequently with other DNC officials but only about three times a month by Zoom with Harrison. The limits of his influence are a source of agitation for Harrison, according to several people who have spoken to him.

    At the same time, he’s not flying to meet with donors or visiting DNC headquarters. Instead, since he first took the post a year ago, Harrison has mostly stayed in his home state of South Carolina, according to people familiar with his schedule, as well as people who frequently see him around town. That has been a major point of consternation for the White House.

    And neither the White House nor Harrison has come up with a cohesive strategy to help President Joe Biden rebound from abysmal approval ratings.

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    I take it Branco is in MN given that a lot of his stuff is focused on MN but none of those things are seriously being discussed in the DFL. In fact the Democratic governor Tim Walz is talking about giving a rebate to MN taxpayers.
     
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    Senator Machin apparently spent a boat load of money last year to protect himself from liberals

    Manchin hired security detail amid threats and protests

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/592144-manchin-hired-security-detail-amid-threats-and-protests

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    Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) spent heavily on private security over the last three months of the year as he became a prime target for progressive protesters angry at his role blocking a reconciliation package in the Senate.

    Filings with the Federal Election Commission show Manchin’s campaign paid more than $75,000 on an Atlanta-based private security firm in November. Reporters at the time saw Manchin being trailed by what appeared to be a private security officer as he walked the halls of the Capitol complex.
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    You're just replying to a bot that only posts nonsensical and idiotic cartoons.
     
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    He lost his posting card with debacles like the Ted Cruz thread.

    Almost sad...Dare I say comical?

    Viva le cartoon resistance!
     
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    Luján stroke jolts 50-50 Senate

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/592391-lujan-stroke-jolts-50-50-senate

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    News of Sen. Ben Ray Luján’s (D-N.M.) stroke sent shockwaves through the Senate on Tuesday, underscoring the fragility of Democrats’ 50-50 majority.

    Democrats are in the majority because they have 50 seats and the ability for Vice President Harris to break a tie. Luján’s absence leaves them at 49 seats until he returns, with his office saying he’s expected to make a full recovery.

    “It's just a reminder that in a 50-50 Senate any unexpected development could be a challenge to our moving forward on an agenda that the Democratic caucus shares,” said Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), who said he was very optimistic that the 49-year-old Luján would make a full recovery.

    Underscoring the narrow majority, Democrats on the Commerce Committee, which Luján is a member of, almost immediately yanked three nominations that were expected to get votes on Wednesday. An aide noted that the agenda was being "recalibrated to take into consideration the need for all Democratic votes in order to move certain nominees forward."
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    Loser libs in here seemed to attack you personally but can’t say shiet about your content. So damn typical, these losers have no ways to defend their party from hell.
     
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    The flack is the heaviest when you are right over the target. That is what their personal attacks communicate to me.
     
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    This is the real state of the Dems. Orange man hypnotized these 2 politicians to the points where they changed their allegiance. Lol
     
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    The left decried it for the pandora's box it would open.

    Many of the analysts at the time said there would be eventual parity between donors. With mini donations that Bernie popularized, I'm sure the Dem lead became much higher.
     
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