[The Hill] Spotify sides with Joe Rogan after Neil Young ultimatum

I too have pulled my music from Spotify. Because it's a scam for musicians.

 

It's down more than the avg. No, Rogan didn't do it. Young did with the attention he's getting.

 

Netflix stock plummeted after disappointing 4q earning announcement.

Spotify 4q earning hasn't been announced yet. It's in a few day.

 

Nothing Neil Young is doing is "censorship" or "censorious" or "censor-riffic". Neil Young nor Spotify are the government, Neil Young doesn't own Spotify and Neil Young has his own right to where he decides where he wants his property distributed.

Yet another example of the bizarre arguments that some are making regarding censorship. It's not just about actual government it's now about private individuals deciding they don't want to be on the same platform as another private individual. Under that reasoning then if someone were to leave Clutchfans because they didn't like another poster's takes then that would "censorship."

 

The proponent of free speech forgot that Neil Young is expressing his speech.

 

I have both a Constitutional sense regarding censorship.

If we take this expansive view of censorship you're proposing then you're threatening to censor me by accusing me of "moral blindness"

The real moral blindness here is using "censorship" as a cudgel the free expression of other's economic and property rights. It's a blindness that you view this argument only from the one side while ignoring the fact that Neil YOung has a right to how his property is used.

 

once again, your reading comprehension is very poor. i never proclaimed any such thing.

once again you are showing that you know nothing about what kind of person neil young is. he has been an outspoken rabble rouser for over 50 years now and anybody who is a fan at all of him knows this. his band mates know it, his record label knows it, his fans know it.

you remind me of all those dorks who were upset with willie nelson when he criticized trump - "willie is a liberal now!!!"...those people clearly knew nothing about willie just like you clearly know nothing about neil young.

another way you show that you know nothing about neil young is this comment...

"crawling back to spotify" - lol.

all you have to do is explain to me how im "far left", which you said you would do after you got back from karate class like a month ago.

 

What is your proposed solution to this danger?

 

I was looking for a bit more specific.

We already do that today - the gov cannot suppress speech except for rare cases.

Surely, you aren't proposing expanding that restriction to individual and private entity? But that's what I hearing from some on the right. What else?

 

this is not about Joe Rogan's views per se, his show just happens to be the largest honey pot for where unpopular/minority viewpoints (or at least unpopular among elite government/media/tech circles) can be heard

and so the elites want to shut it down

if Rogan were to be censored, those views would flow to some other outlet

the left plays whack-a-mole going from forum to forum to try and chase these views out of the public square. They justify this by claiming their views represent truth, and opposing views represent dangerous misinformation.

 

wasn’t talking about tolerance

Who would decide what individual and private cannot restrict? Politicians and judges?

If a publisher decided to no longer publish a book because it’s not a moneymaker, the gov can force them to?

If an individual does not allow swear words on her website and would remove them or ban users who wouldn’t comply because she wants it to be for kids under 10, then the gov can force her to unban and un-delete? Or would you have some judgment on when it crosses the line, with the gov making those judgments?

 

spotify is a private company - its not the public square.

and dont pretend like right wingers and trumpers dont also try to chase opposing views of out public (or private) squares. look no further than liz cheney and other actual conservative republicans, who are being run out of their own party for not going along with trumps lies. or trump telling his supporters to not eat oreos, use amazon, shop at macys, drink coke, attend MLB games or buy apple products.

as far as rogan, he is helping to disseminate dangerous misinformation. but its a free country and i believe in his right to do that if he wants. spotify is a private business and they can host him if they want. neil young is a private citizen/artist and he should be free to not be involved with spotify if he doesnt want to be. nobody is censoring anybody.

in the end, its on americans to not be so stupid and gullible as to believe everything that comes out of his show.

 

the difference is Joe Rogan isn't actively trying to prevent anyone's views from being heard

 

Neil Young is acting as the invisible hand. I thought you weirdos jerked off to Ayn Rand.

I guess it’s more important to cry about how mean society is to you.