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The Jalen Green Experience is Coming

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Nov 9, 2021.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    That's a pretty bold statement though, "doesn't improve from here". A bet pessimistic, but that's your prerogative.
     
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    if
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  3. Verbal Christ

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    The goalposts will FOREVER move by a select group here. Jalen could get to all NBA level play and they will still concoct narratives, and look for ways to break him down. It has nothing to do with his game.

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    I've interacted with that poster a lot and I'm not sure if he really is a troll.... he really might be just embarrassingly stupid instead.

    Nuance is something that he's simply incapable of comprehending.
     
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  6. dmoneybangbang

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    No I understand, I just find it pretty pessimistic to talk about him being a Darko bust already if this and that happens.

    It’s your prerogative.
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    Ah yes the nuance of Corey Brewer.
     
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    I love that you're still too dumb to understand what was said.... especially with Green shooting 29% from 3 and being the worst player on the team currently.
     
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    Actually that was not my intention, the convo got side-tracked in that direction.
    What I said was that Killian Hayes had a semi-decent game for Det. He was highly-rated, considered top pick by some pundits, but year and a half in he’s been bad, Jalen Green -level bad. What I said was that these high picks will show some flash here and there and linger in the league for years, like Darko lingered for 9 years. That was how it started, with Killian Hayes reference, which referenced Darko.
    But Darko is a trigger word for the Green-ies, so it blew up.
     
  11. dmoneybangbang

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    I understand you wanted to make a negative comparison as Green and Brewer are not the same type of players.

    Brewer never averaged more than 3.1 FTA in a season while Green is at 3.4 FTA in his rookie year. Brewer shot 19% from 3 his rookie season while Green is at 29% from 3. Brewer had an EFG 38% vs Green's 45%.
     
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  12. dmoneybangbang

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    Or it's just a poor comparison because the anti Green-ies prefer pessimism.

    Killian Hayes's two season are worse than Green's rookie season so far.
     
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    They really are though, but I've accepted that no matter how obvious it is you'll still fail to see it.

    They are both speedy, athletic streaky shooters that thrive in transition but struggle everywhere else.

    There's hope that one day Green can develop beyond that, but Brewer never did.


    Anyway hero, get back to embarrassing yourself on your knees for the love of Jalen Green.
     
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    Thats what i have been saying. Green needs the ball to create and make plays and KPJ has stunted his growth.
     
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    If he needs the ball in his hands, he could always go down to rgv....

    He's currently the worst player on the court for the Rockets, but he'd have a shot at being one of the best for the Vipers.
     
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    KPJ is a better player than Green with the ball in his hands.....why give it to the weaker player?

    But yes, as I have said, both are the same type of player.....both need the ball.

    He looked ok last night....33% FG and 25% 3pt is not setting the world on fire and 5 assists and 3 turnovers is meh....

    I think people may be overreacting a bit...here because he has been so awful.....he was meh......not great.

    And we got blown out...our defense was putrid.

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  17. dmoneybangbang

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    Their numbers are different. Brewer never ran the point or created much. It's telling you can't actually use any objective numbers.

    LOL. I suppose when you have no supporting evidence, just toss **** at the wall.

    I am a Rockets fan and I've never been one of those lesser posters who have to denigrate Rocket's players. I also have never been banned from CF.
     
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    Only superstars score 50 in a game.

    Welcome to the hall of fame Brandon Jennings.
     
  19. NewAge

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    no not really, when you count that he’s passable to OK on D.
    Same for Brewer, BTW, the other hot-trigger name here. Brew was a decent defensive player.

    BUT, as entertaining and illustrative comparisons are, they don’t really provide a very valuable insight.

    What I am interested to learn is how exactly Green’s talents can translate into production. There have been many suggestions here, some of them quite intelligent: get stronger, get a Eurostep, get a floater, change the shot mechanics, improve the handle, etc…. That’s all good, but it’s all like a Christmas wish-list.

    If I was running things, I would do this:
    1. Figure if there are sets that can be designed now that utilize effectively his limited skill set now. Get something going: cuts, PnR, misdirection play, something. Try to find something that works and pound on it to build positive feeling. All the other things in the Christmas wish-list are for the off-season. But if something gets going now, I’d be more optimistic.
    2. If nothing works right now with this kid, send him to the G-league to build confidence and to master skills. Nothing shameful about it. If he dominates there like Nix then I’d be more optimistic.

    Right now, I am not being pessimistic, but if the whole thesis is that he needs to develop this and that, it’s back to Killian Hayes: if he can develop this and that he’d be awesome, too.
     
  20. dmoneybangbang

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    Rookie guards being mediocre to bad on defensive doesn't exactly produce a narrow list.....

    I wouldn't expect Jalen to improve his bag of tricks until the off season. I think it's clear Jalen is going to be working hard to just keep his head above water for the rest of the season. Optimistically he'll get more consistent in a positive way but more likely he will run hot and cold. You send Jalen to the bench before sending him to the G League.

    Killian Hayes was drafted to be more of point guard than scoring scoring guard and he objectively took a small step back in sophomore season. I don't understand the comparison besides choosing two disappointing guards.
     
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