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Critical Race Theory.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jiggyfly, May 17, 2021.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    tan·gi·ble
    /ˈtanjəb(ə)l/
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    adjective
    1. perceptible by touch.
      "the atmosphere of neglect and abandonment was almost tangible"
    Yes I have the right to say something didn't affect someone tangibly because I first know what tangible means. Do you?
     
  2. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

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    Congratulations @basso @StupidMoniker @tinman @Os Trigonum

    You have achieved your objective and the CRT "backlash' campaign is triumphant.

    That Holocaust, mice -> very uncomfortable. Get rid of it

     
  3. T_Man

    T_Man Contributing Member

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    I have no more time for that dude... He showed his true colors with what he said... Which is the same as a bigot...

    I have no time for bigots...

    T_Man
     
  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    When my parents died, my grief was tangible. When my grandchildren and children were born, my joy was tangible, when January 6th occurred, my anger and fear was tangible.

    Why did you leave out #2.

    . 2 : capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind her grief was tangible
     
  5. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    You must have missed every post I have posted about what should or should not be banned, especially vis-a-vis books. Here is one from earlier in this thread.
    Nice try.
     
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  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    And grief was covered by emotional. You're arguing to argue.

    It happened,
    it's over
    Your life is the same
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Again, you're projecting your feelings in my life. My life is different since January 6. My life is different since the Floyd murder.

    I'm glad you're floating happily through life since your pocketbook was unaffected.
     
  8. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    It looks like the anti-CRT nutty folks are now moving on to banning books.

    http://tnholler.com/2022/01/mcminn-county-bans-maus-pulitzer-prize-winning-holocaust-book/

    Continuing the recent spate of conservative book-banning initiatives, The Mcminn County School board just voted to ban the Pulitzer Prize-winning graphic novel “MAUS” by Art Spiegelman from all of its schools, citing the inclusion of words like “God Damn” and “naked pictures” (illustrations) of women.

    There is no video available of the meeting, but here are the MINUTES in their entirety.

    We called the board and asked if the book being about the Holocaust had anything to do with the decision, and were told it did not. Still, the climate of conservative censorship, the passage of history-whitewashing laws that threaten fines to teachers who teach the truth, and the push towards the banning of books across the state by groups like “Moms for Liberty” makes it fair to question the timing.

    The Vote was 10-0, with Yes votes from: Denise Cunningham, Bill Irvin, Quinten Howard, Sharon Brown, Mike Cochran, Mike Lowry, Donna Casteel, Jonathan Pierce, Tony Allman, Rob Shamblin.

    Much of the discussion revolved around how books are selected for the curriculum, with finger-pointing at state standards which have become a popular punching bag among conservatives lately. They also discussed the possibility of redacting the words they found objectionable, but decided it would be better to ban the graphic novel altogether.

    ...
     
  9. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    And no, it's not isolated.

    The war on library books

    https://popular.info/p/the-war-on-library-books

    In the coming months, you will hear a lot from right-wing politicians about the need to "empower parents" to have more influence over their children's education. As a general concept, this makes sense. Parents should be involved in all aspects of their child's life.

    Aligning yourself with parents is also savvy politics. Everyone has parents and millions of people are parents themselves. Parents, for the most part, love their kids. What kind of monster is against parent empowerment?

    But what does this mean in practice? While empowering parents sounds nice, politicians who have adopted the mantra are pushing to curtail academic freedom and ban books. It's less about parent involvement in their child's education and more about imposing cultural conservatism on every aspect of public education.

    In Oklahoma, State Senator Rob Standridge (R) recently introduced legislation that would prohibit public school libraries from carrying "books that address the study of sex, sexual preferences, sexual activity, sexual perversion, sex-based classifications, sexual identity, gender identity, or books that contain content of a sexual nature that a reasonable parent or legal guardian would want to know about or approve of before their child is exposed to it."

    Under Standridge's legislation, parents are the sole arbiter of what books violate this standard. The bill would require schools to remove any book within 30 days of a parent's request. If the book is not removed, "the employee tasked with removing the book is to be dismissed… and he or she cannot be employed by a public school district or public charter school for 2 years." Parents could also sue the school for "monetary damages" which "shall include a minimum of $10,000.00 per day the book requested for removal is not removed."

    In an interview with local media, Standridge said he wants to empower parents to purge "transgender, queer and other sexually related books" from school libraries. Standridge says "reasonable parents" don't want their children to have access to books that deal with LGBTQ issues and "he hasn’t seen any examples of heterosexual books" that would be banned. But Standridge's bill allows parents to object to any book that contains "content of a sexual nature," which certainly includes, for example, Anna Karenina, and the Bible.

    Standridge is not an aberration. The closing ad of Virginia Governor-elect Glenn Youngkin (R), who successfully ran on a "parent empowerment" platform, featured a mother who unsuccessfully tried to ban Beloved, Toni Morrison's Pulitzer-Prize winning novel, from her son's AP English class.

    Beloved does contain explicit sexual content, but it is also a masterpiece that forces readers to grapple with the realities of slavery. Reading Beloved makes many high school students — and many readers of any age — feel uncomfortable. But that is the point. Pushing yourself out of your comfort zone and exposing yourself to new perspectives is also the purpose of education.

    But Youngkin won and his victory has inspired others to follow his lead. For years, people have tried to ban some of the greatest books ever written. But rarely has book-banning had so much political salience.

    In 2022, there are efforts by politicians across the country to ban hundreds of books from public schools. It is a frontal assault on academic freedom.

    Messing with books in Texas
    In Texas, State Representative Matt Krause (R), who is running for attorney general, sent an "inquiry" to the Texas Education Agency (TEA) and several Texas school districts regarding a list of 850 books. The inquiry asks the school districts "if they have these books, how many copies they have and how much money they spent on the books." Krause also asks the districts to identify any other books in their libraries that "might make students feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress because of their race or sex."

    Krause's list includes The Confessions of Nat Turner, a novel which won the Pulitzer Prize in 1967, Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents, a work of history published in 2020 that the New York Times called "an instant American classic and almost certainly the keynote nonfiction book of the American century thus far," and the graphic novel version of The Handmaid's Tale. It also includes many books that touch on LGBTQ issues targeted by Standridge in Oklahoma.

    Krause did not list the purpose of his inquiry, stating only that he was empowered to request anything "necessary for the information of the legislature or for the welfare and protection of state citizens."

    In response to Krause's inquiry, one school district in San Antonio "identified and immediately removed 414 books" for review. According to a school district spokesperson, the books were removed "out of an abundance of caution" and to "ensure they did not have any obscene or vulgar material in them." The spokesperson "did not say how long the review would take." A group of students started a petition in protest, saying Krause's list targets books that address issues of concern to minority and LGBTQ students.

    Krause also has a powerful ally in Texas Governor Greg Abbott (R). In November, Abbott wrote the TEA claiming that "Texas students have been exposed to pornographic books and content in Texas public schools." Abbott claimed that "the Texas Association of School Boards has refused to assist their member school boards to address this issue." Abbott instructed the TEA "to investigate any criminal activity in our public schools involving the availability of p*rnography" and "refer any instance of p*rnography being provided to minors under the age of 18 for the prosecution to the fullest extent of the law."

    Abbott was not referring to p*rnography but "two memoirs about LGBTQ characters that include graphic images and descriptions of sex." One of the memoirs, In The Dream House, is a critically-acclaimed book that deals with an abusive relationship between two women. Abbott is advocating not only banning these books but prosecuting school librarians.

    As a result of Abbott's demand, the TEA has reportedly launched an investigation into one Texas school district.

    "Controversial" books in school libraries are also being targeted in Kansas, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and other states.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    Oh i absolutely insist that i missed it - lol I don't read this trash ass thread other than the handful of posts i made or responded to, or literally anything anyone outside of a Columbia Law School Seminar (or wherever it originated!) says about "critical race theory" as it's irrelevant to most people's lives other than the usual suspects who want to ban the same ****ing books always.

    I might not be a racist, but at least I'm not stupid
     
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  11. T_Man

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    Sounds like you are talking from experience seeing that you had too experience that growing up in ALL black neighborhood...

    So you are teaching from experience...

    T_Man
     
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  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    How is your life different?
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    Remember the real CENSORSHIP! is private businesses removing intellectual luminaries like Donald Trump Jr. and Alex Jones from their privately run social media platforms.

    Removing books that make people uncomfortable from public libraries is just looking out for the children... ;)
     
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    It had a pretty tangible affect on my life but then I do live in Minneapolis.

    If you read the multiple threads here and other social media it did have a pretty tangible affect on the lives of those who live outside of Minneapolis. There were Global protests over the death of George Floyd along with changes in policies in LE from that.

    The conviction of Chauvin was a departure from many previous cases where LEO had a significant advantage in the legal system. It is already influencing how prosecutors and LEO act.
     
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    This is how we know the current "libertarian" movement aka "right wing fascist" movement is disingenuous when it comes to their "free speech" grift. They couldn't give two ***** about it. It's all about tipping the scales on the culture wars.

    The hundreds of articles people like @Os Trigonum spams about the plight of college professors who say Asian immigrants are bad for America and are being criticized by their students to leave their position and yet is completely silent when the actual GOVERNMENT bans books.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    They aren't really even trying to hide it anymore.
     
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  18. T_Man

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    News flash... That dude could care less... His response to @bobrek statement showed what type of person he really is...

    No matter what anyone says on this board he doesn't care, which is his right.... He doesn't know history, will NEVER admit when he's wrong and will argue for the sake of arguing...

    I guess this is what they teach you in Catholic School..

    The realization is there are just some people you can't help... I Wish him the best of luck...

    As Ron White stated...

    [​IMG]


    T_Man
     
  19. basso

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    it's better to burn out, than it is to rust.
     
  20. jiggyfly

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    You sure do like to throw out a lot of labels and fit as many people under a tent to make a point.

    I look at Libertarians with a side eye, but I also know the majority of Libertarians don't agree with banning books at all.

    What current libertarian movement are you talking about?
     

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