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Critical Race Theory.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jiggyfly, May 17, 2021.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    The Boston Tea Party was about Boston residents, notably many importers, who were upset about new taxes that the British government had put in place. While this was unpopular throughout the other colonies it was in Boston that it was particularly opposed because Boston was very dependent on trade from Britain.


    The Tulsa Massacre was about white resentment of a successful Black Wall Street and suspicions of black individuals. The destruction of Black Wall Street showed how far whites would go to prevent blacks from being successful which was an attitude prevalent throughout the country.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I fully acknowledge Vietnamese American conservatism. They are Asian and I'm linking all Asians but it's a separate issue.

    Do you think Asian feelings of superiority is exclusive to blacks?
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The Boston Tea Party was about taxes and independence. Tulsa was about Tulsa. It's a ridiculous analogy.
     
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    Tulsa was about what happens when Black Americans "get uppity" and achieve economic success as a community. So yes, it's a relevant piece of history that gives insight in the racial dynamics of the time period just like the Boston Tea Party provided historical insight into the dynamics between the colonists and the British Crown.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The Boston Tea Party was pretty much the beginning of the war for independence. It wasn't just an example of colonists's frustrations where Tulsa albeit large is just an example of racism.

    The area in Tulsa was rebuilt, the massacre has no long term ramifications. In terms of tangible effects it only affected Tulsa blacks
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    @bobrek
    @rocketsjudoka

    A lot of the race riots from the time period of the Tulsa massacre were about a black man being falsely accused of rape. The issue is racism in general.

    I think I wrote earlier that it is not generally understood how rough a period of time that was racial violence. However this isn't something that contributes to the current condition of blacks, not like overall past discrimination can be argued as a large contributor to the current wealth gap

    Also I think that Americans downplay how substantial the issue of race was in American politics and culture from the arrival of the first slaves through Jim Crow. Part of this is a result of Southerners's white washing of history on race in school and beyond. I actually started a thread on the topic.

    That being said in terms of whites this white washing didn't because a lot of there feelings on race were so strong they can't hide how important it was to them, hence the attempt at white washing
     
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    Hmm I dunno... maybe black wall street was burned down...

    So I know @rocketsjudoka touched on this a little bit...

    But tell me how do you classify what is
    1. American History
    2. State History
    3. Cultural History such as (Black, Asian, etc...)
    4. So is White History the same as American History?

    T_Man
     
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    So you are linking all Asians together???

    Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Tai, etc????

    T_Man
     
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    By whom it affected
     
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    Wait... What!!!

    What do you mean by whom it affected...

    So are you saying since the Boston Tea party was with white settlers than that is associated with American History...

    Since the Tulsa event was in Tulsa but with African Americans that is with Tulsa history and not Black or American History...

    Please help me here... I don't want to be putting words in your mouth, just asking for you to break it down for me so that I can understand...

    T_Man
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The Tulsa event affected people in Houston? Is that really hard to understand?
     
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    So are you saying that what happened in Tulsa had no affect on African Americans in Houston? Maybe it did or did not have any burden on Whites...

    I just want to make sure I truly understanding you correctly???

    T_Man
     
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    It wiped out generational wealth. It stopped entrepreneurship and home ownership in other parts of the US. How can you say it didn't have any long term ramifications? That's just factually incorrect.

    Estimating Long Term Effects of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I don't understand your white burden comment but no blacks in Houston weren't affected
     
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    You absolutely do not know that and there is no way you can state that as a fact.
     
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    You're making the argument why we need to know the history of incidences like the Tulsa Massacre. It wasn't something that just happened in a vacuum.
     
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    No it's not exclusive to blacks. As noted many Asians treat others including other Asians as inferior and those attitudes have carried over to the US.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You totally misread my post. You said since Asians vote Democrat they aren't racist. My point is that blacks vote Democrat, so do you consider blacks racist? If it's a qualifier for Asians, is it also a qualifier for blacks?
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I'm just glad that only folks in Minneapolis were affected by the Floyd murder. And, in the future there is no need to discuss it in any school except for those in the Twin Cities.
     
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