God I hope Harden leaves. With Kyrie refusing to get vaxxed, Durant seeming more and more injury prone and Harden gone, those picks are looking more and more interesting.
Harden has played with better players here in Houston, three that may be hall of famers when their career's end. Dwight Howard, Chris Paul and Westbrook.... Not to mention some great role players that are or were on par with Middleton and Holiday like Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, prime Chandler Parsons, Clint Capela, PJ Tucker...... Harden has had more talent in Houston than Giannis, so what gives?
I don't really care about this argument. I will say though that Durant/Curry/Draymond/Thompson would have kicked Middleton/Giannis/Holiday asses out of earth's orbit. The only thing that beats that team is a miracle or an injury.
GSW was on the ropes when Paul went down, Rockets had the lead at halftime in game 7 of that series. What The Rockets were missing was a Giannis, no way in hell we lose that series if you swap Harden with Giannis that series. GSW was beat....
I am soooo with you on this. Makes it even better that each of them orchestrated their own situation.
They were on the ropes in (obviously) large part because of Harden. A hobbled Harden and that same Durant were a toe on the line from beating him. I’m pretty sure that constitutes being on the rope as well.
Simple Assists divided by Turnovers. Nothing fancy. Sounds like you are a stat head to be asking this. Can you explain by chance why the "TOV%" for Westbrook is (slightly) higher than Harden's despite having better Assists to Turnovers ratio AND a higher usage rate? TIA Edit: I looked up the definition to tov%. It is 100 * TOV / (FGA + 0.44 * FTA + TOV). And it has nothing for Assists completed (as if those are not productive plays??), so seems pretty dumb to me.
Can you share with me the link you're using for turnover RATE? Assist divided by turnovers has always been an assist to turnover ratio. I guess rate and ratio can be used interchangeably in terms of assists and turnovers but you're citing it as two separate metrics.
So, was your list of players ordered by tov%? Simple assists divided by turnovers would just by the typical assist to turnover ratio, wouldn't it? This backpicks article describes an "adjusted" tov% that does account for assists. Don't think there's an easy way to calculate it, though. Offensive Load and Adjusted TOV% | Back Picks ESPN's version of Turnover% (under "Hollinger stats") uses the same formula as basketball-reference but adds assists to the denominator.
i was just using a ratio. i'm not a stat head. the ratio is good enough for me - at least to rate PGs vs PGs or combo PGs
Harden is pretty atrocious in terms of turn overs using the Hollinger stat as compared to other high usage players (>30min/game) - one of the worst this season. Only KPJ and Cade "beats" him on being careless with the ball. I'm with @Asian Sensation on this. He's keeping it real!
Do you feel like The Rockets gave away/lost the series or like GSW beat/overcame The Rockets? I feel like the series was The Rockets to lose, they were up 3-2 when Pual went down late in game 6 and even then that game was totally winnable. Everything was going great, I may be wrong but that's the same game Paul shimmied on Curry..
