No. It's a very complicated subject college level subject. History class is about history not sociology
But understanding why things like the Civil Rights movement was needed is. Understanding why there is anger and misunderstanding among many groups of Americans is. The goal of grade school education should be teaching about why the World is the way it is and what lessons should be taken from the past. This doesn't just apply to race but to many other things. Consider how much basic ignorance there is about the Constitution and why it is written the way it is.
Doing well as in getting good grades in certain subjects yes in general Asian students are but a frequent criticism of Asian students is that they perform poorly on things like History and other humanities. Leaving that aside though that many Asians themselves don't know the history of Asians in America is a problem. The lack of knowledge that Asians have been in this country for a long time, played an important role in this country, and were themselves discriminated against is one of the reasons why Asians frequently get marginalized in debates about race and civil rights. There is a general view even among Asians themselves that Civil Rights doesn't matter to them as such it's easier to consider Asians as not being a part of this country but just recent interlopers. That view is what colors a lot of conflicts between Asians and other groups including Black Americans.
This is bullshit, you are turning into the equivalent of the far right creating false narratives. The wealth is not a black issue, it's an issue that affects all Americans, it's people like you playing the race card that helps divide the people who are affected by the wealth gap. Where are you getting this more half the country BS? This board is a microcosm of the country, and less than a third actually believe that is what the modern wealth gap issue is. This is why we can't have productive conversations because are so willing to throw bombs that have no factual merit.
Wealth is disproportionately a black issue that was created out of a racist system. So ya when the median white family has 1000% more wealth than the median black family, wealth inequality has a very hard defined racial component. That's such a significant gap that includes two of the largest race populations in the country that no one can ignore it and no one really does because people in this country fall into two camps when they see such a massive wealth divide. Either you believe it's a racial cultural issue or you believe it's a result of racist systems of the past couple of centuries. I know you and I at least agree it's the latter. But yes from my experience in being born and raised in middle class suburbs in Texas from being in the military, the notion that the wealth gap between black and white families is mostly a "black culture" issue is held by what most here would consider moderate conservatives who are no where near extremist. I know so many people who are mostly apolitical with a conservative leaning ideology who when this issue is brought up they'll say stuff like "but slavery was more than a century ago, so that shouldn't effect modern black people". I've heard that argument time and time again coming from people no one here would label as extremist. A lot of those sentiments don't come out of racial hatred but more out of racial ignorance that brings back the original conversation that our public education system is lacking in content that informs American kids about how these massive wealth gaps occured. For example, I didn't hear about the concept of redlining until attending a gen Ed social science course in college. Also this subforum isn't a good representation of the overall polticial discourse in the country. It's far more left leaning than the general public.
So...a high school senior can't be taught about civil rights fights, jim crow laws, events like the Tuskegee experiments and the Tulsa Massacre, Dr. King's impact on society, etc. , but a college Freshman can? Also, those items AREN'T part of the history of the USA? For good or bad, those are examples of events that had a profound impact on shaping our country.
None of that has a bearing on what I posted, yes the wealth gap affects blacks more than others, but that does not mean it only affects blacks. When you start playing the race card you turn off the allies you need to actually get things done, and you start othering folks, race has no place in a wealth gap discussion because all facets of the population are impacted. Just because you know so many people does not mean half of the population like you said, how about we lay off the hyperbole to prove a point?
I think if you lived in this country long enough in various different regions you get a solid estimate of what a "extremist" political junkie looks like and what a casual moderate looks like. So when I see people who I consider moderates who are mostly apolitical, who don't really hold any racial beliefs outside of causal conversation saying stuff like "slavery was 100 years ago, It shouldn't matter now" I'm going to believe that is a moderate take... A moderate take I highly disagree with. And why is it so hard for you to believe when this country is capable of electing Donald Trump into the highest office in the land? So now pointing out the massive absurd 1000% wealth difference between the median white and black family means I'm playing the race card? Is that very crucial fact about the American way of life impossible to bring up then without you labeling it as "the race card"? Really? And now it seems like you are just chosing a position to just be diametrically opposed to me because I remember precisely in the primary presidential campaign season, you gave Bernie flack for doing the exact opposite of what I'm stating and aligning with your current sentiment which was to treat wealth inequality with no racial component. I remember having a debate with you if I remember correctly about why Joe Biden gets a larger percentage of black voters in primaries than Bernie and I remember this issue being brought up. I remember one of the many reasons you were against Bernie was that he treated wealth inequality outside the race component.
What happened in Tulsa has a lasting impact in Tulsa. I think what happened to Martin Luther King is taught in high school now, again your age is a factor in the discussion
There is a lot to dissect in this post but one thing I will say about Asian Americans in general is that aren't racist, even not about their academic superiority. Maybe not focusing on those subjects in their home has some positive consequences
I don't know why you have such a blanket statement about Asians not being racist. In fact I would say recent middle class and upper middle class immigrants from Asia have harsher racial views about Black Americans than the average white person in this country because they have even less knowledge of the racial history of this country and will make a lot of assumptions. I know many South Asian American citizens and immigrants who say abject racist **** about Black people that I don't really hear from even conservative white folks.
What happened TO Dr. King and the impact Dr. King had on this country are 2 different things. As a matter of fact, what happened TO Dr. King is a direct result of his fight for equality. And, 36 blacks killed and businesses destroyed simply because they were successful is only relevant in Tulsa?
And? Biden voters can't have racist sentiments? I know plenty of South Asian American citizens and immigrants who voted for or supported Biden that have said pretty racist **** about Black folks.
Yes it's only relevant to Tulsa in historical terms. You need a black history class to teach everything you want. History class has other priorities. As far as what Dr King preached the Civil Rights movement is covered in school. This isn't an issue
None of this has anything to do with your statement that half the US population argues that slavery has been over 100 years ago, so everything is fine. And just because somebody voted for Trump it does not make them racist or somebody that uses 100 years ago argument and even if all of his voters felt that way it would not be 50% of Americans or 50% of actual voters. This is the hyperbole I am talking about, and you are just as bad as the right using divisive statements to prove a point, do you actually think everybody who voted for Trump was racist? I hate anybody using the race card to make a point, so I certainly never used it against a candidate. I never gave Bernie flack for treating wealth outside of the race component, you are just talking out of your ass to portray me as somebody just opposed to what you say. I have been against any kind of race based policy for or against and the only reason i was against Bernie was Fiscal and social overeach it had nothing to do with race.
When I have time I'll try to find the debate chain because I remember you giving Sanders flak for treating wealth inequality as one ubiquitous issue rather than addressing the racial component. If I'm wrong I'm sorry. Maybe it could have been Major that I was debating about this. Anyways, I don't know how I'm "pulling the race card" in a thread about critical race theory by bringing up wealth by race statistics that shows an obvious clear statistically significant difference in wealth between median white and black families. I figured that's relevant to discussing why teaching racial systems and how it effects wealth is important. Let me ask you this question. Is there a time and place to address the 1000% wealth gap between the median white and black household without you considering it "the race card"?
So they wouldn't vote for Trump? We have had the discussion of Vietnamese conservatism here when the Vietnamese police officer was fired for being at the Capitol insurrection. Political views and race are intertwined I don't want to call all Republican voters racist but I'm not going to argue about your anecdotes so until you find a better statistics on Asians and their racial views I'll go with voting Democrat demonstrates they probably aren't racist
