what good ingram has done to pelicants or lakers? oth i dont doubt jalen green will get the max contract, so he wont be a bust as per his earnings...but i doubt the franchise that maxes him will go anywhere.....i saw andrew wiggins in him before draft and hes proving me right until now...just an athletic freak with not a lot of game...
Will Jalen be next Steph? Probably not. But getting Booker/Jamal Crawford type of player isn't bad either. It's not like there are top10 nba players in every draft. But it looks like Mobley might be one in the future. I was for Green too but I thought he will be taller tbh
The thing with work ethic is you got to have the fundamentals to work on. If he is lacking fundamentals in the first place, then it is going to be hard to re-learn them and apply again. Brian Shaw is a mediocre coach who has not made it in the league as a coach. The NBA is a different league now, the times when you can come in and go HAM on athleticism, explosion and pure talent is over. That is not longevity.
There are different types of work ethics, depending on what drives it. Type I: Ultra-competitiveness, desire to dominate and humiliate opponents. Prime examples: MJ, Kobe Type II: Hoops junkie-ness. Staying in the "lab" working and perfecting technique because of hoops addiction. Internal motivation. Prime Example: James Harden, Type III: personal ambition, sense of duty and responsibility, upbringing. External motivation. Prime examples: Yao, Admiral, Giannis. I get a feeling that jalen is probably a bit Type III.
I wish he was more of a Type II. those in type II are more likely to develop unique skills and generally have better Bball IQ. I think both Steph and Durant are like that too, they just love hooping
Or you could just say Brian Shaw felt that his protege was a good student of the game and had talent, a good quick first step. You do not have to be a bball expert to know that Brian Shaw would not say bad things about his former player. Thanks for the input, this tells you different kinds of love for the game and different approaches. I think Giannis has all the types, he is just not particulary skilled but still enough to dominate. Wasn't Giannis a soccer player and touched the basketball very late in his teens?
If you have a legendary work ethic, you would think your fundamentals would be strong like dribbling and shooting - which they are not........ He looks like a player that has gotten by on superior athleticism - he needs major work on his fundamentals. DD
Not sure about that. Demar DeRozan has great work ethic and when he came into the league he couldn't dribble either, and his shooting was nothing to brag about. Now he's developed himself into an elite scorer. Jalen Green has double the potential of DeRozan.
Why do you say he has double the potential? If Green develops into an all star like DeRozan, that is a good result, right? DD
I mean to say athletically speaking. Jalen Green can work half as hard as DeRozan to improve but still get to DeRozan's level. Not exactly half but you get my point. Green does not have to work as hard as DeRozan has had to work in order to get where he's at.
I kinda don't agree, I feel like DeRozan was just as athletic, if not more coming into the league. He also had a more NBA ready body. I followed Derozan closely in his Raptor days, he was actually quite underwhelming skill wise for his first 3 years, couldn't shoot, couldn't dribble and almost solely relied on his athleticism to score. I think his first year he was just catching lobs and doing not much else. But once he really worked hard to add a stellar mid range game and that changed everything. Jalen right now is in the same spot imo, bad team, relies on his athleticism to get to the rim, but doesn't have much consistent finishing moves. The only thing is that he does have a streaky 3 point shot, but he needs to figure out a consistent way to score while bulking up. It took a lot of work and 3-4 years for Derozan to get there, I hope Jalen takes less time than that.
DeRozan was only the 9th pick in the draft for a reason. DeRozan has good athleticism by NBA standards, Green has elite athleticism by NBA standards.
Agree to disagree, Derozan was drafted at 9th because he was too raw skill wise, and he relied on his athleticism. He also had zero range on his jumpshot in college. He was rated as a 10/10 elite athlete before the draft. His direct comparisons athleticism wise was Vince Carter. I am almost 100% sure he has a higher vertical than Green who can already jump out of the gym.
derozan is taller with longer arms and had a similar vert to green’s. but he never had the blazing quickness off the bounce nor the fluidity green has. granted those physical gifts alone will never translate into greatness for green but imo he is a uniquely special talent athletically surpassing even young derozan
