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Report: Houston Rockets have been searching market for ‘franchise centerpiece-worthy player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Jan 20, 2022.

  1. coachbadlee

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    Well we got enough food trucks for him.
     
  2. daywalker02

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    It is not.

    This franchise has not done alot with flawed players. It needs someone like Cade Cunningham, a balanced player who can do everything again and defend.

    Everything else is flawed, ownership, front office, coaching staff, players.

    You seriously think Ben Simmons is the answer? You probably make the Play In and that is about it.
     
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  3. LikeMike

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    Simmons can't be the answer. He is not the cornerstone you build your team around. I do believe, however, that he can be an integral part of a championship team - a 3d star. He is a lot better than most people here give him credit for because of his flaws. I think some of them can be corrected. And he needs the right kind of players around him. That are a lot of ifs though. If we can get him for Wood, Gordon and a first round pick, that would indeed be a no brainer for me. But Morey wouldn't do that. And I woulnd't be comfortable offereing that much more.
     
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    I said the same things just I do not believe in Stone enough to say he can build a team around a 3rd option when he cannot even find the Alpha easily.

    By that time, Simmons is probably already in his 30s.

    I mean I would be comfortable with him if Green was already a 25 and 6 scorer, but he is not there yet.
     
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    Yep, it's Cade Cunningham folks, should have seen this from the jump, sorry y'all...
     
  6. NewAge

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    I’d watch the Spyda Mitchell sitch closely. Things are not all hunky-dorey in J-ass-land.
    Mitchell would be absolutely the best option. Gordon+Wood+Jalen Green+3FRPs should do it.
     
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  7. Reeko

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    So Cade Cunningham isn’t actually another Shaun Livingston or Evan Turner?
     
  8. Reeko

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    I’d feel so much better about our future if we had Cade Cunningham…I love high BBIQ, well rounded players that can contribute in all facets of the game…shooting, rebounding, passing, defending, scoring, and even leadership…Cade has it all

    *sigh
     
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  9. xiki

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    is CC actually a Cade Cunningham?
     
  10. Reeko

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    Cade averaging 5 apg playing with Detroit, the worst offensive team in the league and the team with the worst spacing

    Detroit shoots just 42% from the field as a team…we shoot 45%

    Detroit shoots 32% from 3…we shoot 35%

    Detroit has a 102 offensive rating…we’re at 106

    we’re also 1st in pace

    as bad as we are offensively, Detroit is in a complete different tier of suck

    if Cade was in Houston, I think he’d be averaging 7 apg right now as a rookie

    Cade is gonna be 1 of those guys who’s averaging 20+ points, 6-8 rebounds, and 6-8 assists a game…plus he’s solid defensively and his jumper is smooth

    We gave BK Harden, and Silver couldn’t give us the #1 overall pick in return? Smh
     
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    Tilman: C'mon Adam, we helped you save that Brooklyn team! You should have given us the #1 pick!
    Silver: To be fair Tilman that pick could have ended up with OKC so......
    Tilman: Shut up and listen!!!
     
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  12. jiggyfly

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    So you want to have a guy who was to scared to layup a basketball at crunchtime in a deciding playoff game have the offense patterned around him?

    What does that actually give you?

    In the playoffs, he can be totally neutralized because he will not shoot from the perimeter.

    Is this about his growth or about building a championship team?

    Yes, you can build a team around him to help maximize his strength, but will that team ever be a contender?

    He actually does not provide much 2 way versatility, his offensive game is very limited.

    Why have you not addressed the fact that he is mentally weak and refuses to work, expand his game to help the team?

    We are not talking about a 2nd or 3rd year making the leap Simmons is who he is a guy that was scared to get fouled in a elimination game and then wants to be traded so he can get "his" team.
     
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    The "right kind" of people around him is very hard to find in the NBA. You can't just say if Simmons would be a Draymond Green on the GS team because there are no more Curry's and Klay's you can just randomly pick up.

    finding even 1 knock down shooter in this league is hard, let alone 4 others just to surround Simmons.

    I think Simmons should go to an established team that is one piece away from contending, where are we going to find all these floor spacers to accommodate Simmons
     
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  14. NewAge

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    Agree 100%.
    Simmons will make us more competitive in the reg.season, fighting for playoffs maybe. If someone sees value in that and if it only costs John Wall, maybe it’s worth considering.
    But Ben Simmons is NOT a cornerstone piece of a championship team.
     
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  15. DatRocketFan

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    Laker has heard the report and Is bregudingly open to trade former mvp triple double westbrick.

    Lol
     
  16. NewAge

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    Agree 100%. Draymond owes his Max $$$… nah… his career to Steph, Klay, KD.
    Building a team around Simmons/Draymond types as your centerpiece is like cooking a Thanksgiving dinner around Brussels sprouts
     
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    If you think Pippen was like Simmons at all I have to give you the side eye, yes Pippen had his mental moments, but he was never scared to compete or take a shot.

    We are not talking about inconsistency, we are talking about being scared to go up for a dunk because he was scared to shoot a FT in crunch time and then quitting because he caught flak.

    What did his coach say that was over the top? I must have missed it

    "Sixers coach Doc Rivers was asked postgame if Ben Simmons can be the point guard on a championship team. "I don't know the answer to that"

    What about that is over the top?

    Yes Simmons is a talent and can be a rotation guy on a contending team but why would you want to pay a guy who is very mentally weak max money and try and build a team around him?

    How does that make sense?

    Are we trying to build a championship team or just middling playoff team?

    I don't have much of an issue with his deficiencies I could work around that but what I cannot work around is those deficiencies while still wanting to be the guy that is the focal point and getting max money.

    If he was more like Draymond I would not have an issue, a guy that knows his game and maximizes it for the better of the team.

    But Simmons wants to be the main guy while having gaping holes in his game, while be mentally weak.

    Why would you want to pay that guy max money?
     
  18. jiggyfly

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    The Spurs were not built on culture, they were built on having a all-time top 10 NBA player.

    Ainge did not win **** and Jerry West was all about talent he traded for Zach Randolph from the Jailblazers and other r****ds along the way.

    Top teams don't need developmental players like KPJ so what are you blathering about?

    I see you are just talking out of your ass like I thought.


    A
     
  19. zeeshan2

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    luck of the draft man plus we tried to trade up to 1 many times for Cade
     
  20. daywalker02

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    Antetokounmpo is the only guy that could make Draymond expendable.
     

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