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Report: Houston Rockets have been searching market for ‘franchise centerpiece-worthy player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaBeard, Jan 20, 2022.

  1. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

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    What we need is to have 2 MVPs in their primes and we don’t run gimmicks.

    We should play hard and tough like my team at the Y and don’t accept diva mentality. Team ball. That’s the ticket.
     
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  2. hakeem94

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    nice writing but the bolded is misleading and resolving management of accountability and responsibility...

    these guys have alperen sengun yet they are denying him of ROY and not even giving him PT

    LOCATION AND MEDIA markets HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT...

    ITS A SIMPLE INCOMPETENCE AND CARELESSNESS
     
  3. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    in the words of MLK, "I had a dream!"
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    He wants to be the centerpiece, the Franchise guy.

    He and his representatives have said it over and over again all summer, just google Simmons wants his own team.

    I have no issue with struggling down the stretch but Simmons has refused to shoot outside shots going back to college and him being scared to go to the FT line in crunch time is a huge issue for a franchise type player.

    There is a difference from being flawed and mentally soft than refusing to shoot or being scared of contact, and then asking to be traded because the coach made comment that might be critical of me during a press conference.

    Let's just ignore that same coach has been sheilding and praising him since that coach was hired.

    It's a slap in the face to Pippen and Gasol to compare Simmons to those guys.

    I would not want anything to do with Simmons on an average contract, let alone a max type of deal, he is delusional as well as mentally weak.
     
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  5. Nook

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    We will just have to agree to disagree.

    I don't think Simmons is a franchise guy but in the right spot he can be a very valuable player.
     
  6. hakeem94

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    the mere idea of franchise player is misleading, outdated and the reason why the franchises are poor
     
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  7. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Funny thing about Simmons is that people aren't even frustrated about him having a bad shot. People are frustrated by his UNWILLINGNESS to shoot. It's fine if he shoots and misses, it still forces the D to play differently if they know there is the threat of a shot. And then there is him passing on easy dunks against weak defenders because he is scared to shoot from the FT line. That is simply unforgivable for ANY NBA player.
     
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  8. Bo6

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    **** it get zion
     
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  9. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    The only player I see close to available who could be a franchise center piece is Tyrese Halliburton.

    Kings are really stupid to not build around him
     
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    Oh ok .. I can dig where you coming from... But IMO, Fox can be a Kyrie type more than a Westbrook... He's shown he can hit the big shots.. True he doesn't have the shooting of Kyrie, but he's got that alpha dog, no fear, mentality that would mesh well with another star player... I think his contract was status quo for any bottom feeder thinking that they want to build around their stat stuffing draft pick... That's what gets these young rebuilding teams into trouble.. Just depends on who you mesh him with... Trading Fox to a team like Indiana or here would be stupid because he's shown he can't lead a team with average/below-average players anywhere... Many cant!..His true value would be with another star player... I think he'd be a star next to an Embiid or Giannis.. His contract would be an afterthought..
     
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  11. kjayp

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    we're tanking - like the Spurs did...
    What do you think our odds are of winning 5 championships over the next 22 years is?

    There's no denying culture alone isnt gonna win you a championship - you gotta have talent... It's the culture that pushes that talent to reach their maximum potential...

    I think we had a championship squad during the Harden era - but we didnt have the culture... so instead of maximizing the potential of Harden and CP3 and the whole squad... we dealt with a bunch of childishness and disappearing acts and selling at a loss and further hamstringing ourselves moving CP3 (and later WB) when our hand was forced - as opposed to the most fortuitous timing that would benefit the org going forward... and then we still ended up screwed...
     
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  12. astrosrule

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    do you think the spurs culture has gone to ****? Why isn’t there culture helping at all anymore? What happened?
     
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    they got bored with winning ways
     
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    Havent gotten the talent...

    as i said, culture alone doesnt win you a championship...
    and seldom does talent alone win a championship...
    you gotta have both to give yourself the best odds...
    and you want to have the culture in place before you start cycling guys through...

    realizing its not the same thing... but I ran retail stores for a few decades... It's far easier to take over a store and instill standards from day 1 than it is to go in lax - and then try to instill standards down the road... If you get a new hire and they walk in from day 1 with a certain level of expectations - it is far more apt to work out... than taking someone who has been there a few years with no oversight and trying to get them to start towing the line...
     
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    gonna need a forklift
     
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    However, we do need to have contracts to move this offseason otherwise we will need to complicate things and bring in a third team which only lowers the likelihood of a trade.

    I actually think Wood is the contract/player we should hold to until the offseason, however if we get offered an expiring contract and 2 FRP then we'd be wise to take that offer. EG is my priority to move, as his value is both peaking and clear up some time for Green/help keep our bottom 3 position.
     
  17. hakeem94

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    what franchise worthy player will want to come to this cesspit that is even denying their worthy players of such important accolades as ROY....
    by coming here hed only prove hes not a franchise player......
    @CXbby
     
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  18. astrosrule

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    For the most part, your best player sets the culture. You can have a horrible organization and plenty of success, look at the current suns
     
  19. NIKEstrad

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    Dreamcasting here... Holmgren and Simmons would be a fascinating combo. Vulnerable to the Embiids of the world, but that would have some pretty wicked rim protection and switching potential, as well as potentially optimal facilitation for a Jalen Green.

    How many picks on top of Christian Wood and Eric Gordon would it take Philly?
     
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    We actually don't disagree on that, I think he can be a valuable guy as well, but he wants to be more than that, and he is just not built for that.

    He can still be a valuable guy in Philly but for some reason he would rather sit out.

    What makes you think he would be different anywhere else, and why would you gamble paying 40 million for that guy?
     

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