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KPjr has more to do with us winning games RIGHT NOW than anyone on the roster

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Jan 6, 2022.

  1. Downtown Sniper

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    Funny. Being raised right has nothing to do with my personal choice of choosing to dislike a grown man who acts like a toddler.

    So you're saying, anyone in existence who has ever not loved every person in the world, wasn't raised right? Hahahaha. Embarrassing.

    Do better next time. That's two feeble attempts from you now. Wait, are you KPJ? There's some striking similarities right now.
     
  2. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    Yes, how you talk to people just oozes “respect.”
     
  3. Downtown Sniper

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    Swing and a miss. Strike three.

    It's ok. You had a couple of attempts. Mind you you were shut down pretty easy on both those attempts.

    So it's understandable you now resort to a nothing response.

    I commend you in bending the knee when you've been embarrassed though. Word of advice for next time, don't try to be a smartass when doing so, especially when you've been put in your place immediately prior.
     
  4. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    Man, there’s nothing sadder than someone who lacks all self awareness. Please, go ahead and continue to act like an internet bad boy and talk about how you “hate” a 21 year old while also lecturing about “respect.” I promise you, no one is laughing at you. You’re not an embarrassment. Absolutely not.
     
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  5. SamFisher

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    KPJ has definitely played better since the Washington game - looks more like last season.

    I'm not the kind of dork who's gonna say "b-b-but his D-fense!" because the whole Rockets defense has been horrible, i mean even nominally ok defenders like Gordon are falling asleep on defense. And things like the dumb after TO plays last night. This is a common feature of bad teams.
     
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  6. mfastx

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    The clutch threes are nice. He's had good stretches before. Can he turn a corner in consistency? Hopefully in the next year or so!
     
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    I think his defense has been really solid as well on top of everything
     
  8. Hemingway

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    It would be really dumb to b-b-but his D-fense since his defense is close to elite at t his point. That is by far the most impressive thing KPJ has done this season is going from horrible on defense to arguably our best defender (Tate may be better, but is too short for his position).
     
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  9. SamFisher

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    Sorry but I don't buy the "KPJ is elite at defense" argument - what's the backing for this?
     
  10. Hemingway

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    Are you watching the games? I’ve watched every minute of every game the last 2 years and his defense has surpassed every body on this team other than Tate and Nwaba (but Nwaba is unplayable on offense). I’m not the only one commenting on it. Announcers, coaches, and players as well as most the objective posters on this board. He has the length and, now, has the will to really excel at that end of the court and is doing it. The jury is still out on his offense and ability to be a PG, but not on his defense both one on one and in the team concept.
     
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  11. SamFisher

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    Yes, I watched the games, i saw him fall asleep or get roasted quite a bit - no more than anyone else but no less

    I'll dig up the clips later.

    But in addition to this his advanced defensive stats put him near the bottom of the team.

    Now in fairness most of the Rockets starters are in the bottom half, bc they play against other teams starters. But there's nothing there to support the idea that he's elite
     
  12. Hemingway

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    I would like to see his stats for the last 15 games or so. Seasonal stats don’t show growth. Also, stats are not the end all. If they were than Christian Wood would be a no-brainer max player and Jalen Green back in RGV. Eye test is something real and is what coaches rely on. I also think that coaches and Stone are pouring over much more tape than you and are very high on Porter’s growing defensive chops.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    I just like that he is playing a better POINT than he had been, getting people better shots and not turning it over. He only had 1 yesterday against 8 assists, for him that is major improvement.

    And, he only took 12 shots, that shows he is trying to get others involved more than himself, heck Green didn't play in the 4th quarter and had one more shot than Porter.

    A Point that is unselfish and can still score a bit, that is progress.

    DD
     
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    You literally said "I was taught to respect people" and "I vehemently hate KPJ" in consecutive sentences.

    So which is it? Can't be both.

    My advice to you is to learn to have empathy for people that aren't you, especially young adults that grew up rough.

    Your hatred of KPJ doesn't reflect your good virtue and character the way you think it does. Quite the opposite actually.
     
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    WTF dude?

    You act like he murdered somebody, you cheer for him to turn his life around and cheer for him because he will make your team better.

    How the hell can you vehemently hate a guy who never did anything personally to you or yours.

    Or did he?
     
  16. Plowman

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    Yet, you CAN'T...evidenced by this thread. Au contraire, you've gone out of your way to display a lack of class, heart, AND integrity commensurate with this moral high ground you aspire to.
     
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  17. Nook

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    Really hoping the Rockets get Jaden Ivey in the draft so Porter Jr. can go play in the Philippines.
     
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    Kevin Porter Defensive FG%:

    First 15 games: 46.2%
    Second 15 games: 49.4%
     
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  19. jiggyfly

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    LOL and you are actually doubling down.

    And then using things you don't even know actually happened to legitimize your childish hate for the guy.

    Why does a person throwing things upset you so much, It's not even proven that he was throwing things at people, but you want to focus on that unproven fact?

    You must really hate black mothers because will throw anything at hand at you if they feel like it.
     
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  20. SamFisher

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    I mean, here's the eye test - first drive of the game, Conley - who is 34 years old and has been driving to his left for 33 of those 34 years, comes right up the court at KPJ, who is shading to the wrong direction, and drives to his left, and sicne the Rockets are gnerally awful and have no rim protection, it's an easy lay up

    https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?GameEventID=41&GameID=0022100677&Season=2021-22&flag=1&title=Conley 3' Driving Layup (2 PTS) (Bogdanovic 1 AST)&sct=plot

    Or here we go, slowly grativates toward Clarkson for a half-hearted steal attempt, leaving Bogdanovich wide open for an easy corner 3

    https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?GameEventID=131&GameID=0022100677&Season=2021-22&flag=1&title=Bogdanovic 3PT Jump Shot (11 PTS) (Clarkson 1 AST)&sct=plot

    burned on the switch right after half time

    https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?GameEventID=320&GameID=0022100677&Season=2021-22&flag=1&title=Gobert 2' Cutting Dunk Shot (15 PTS) (Conley 2 AST)

    Look, that's happened to ALL the Rockets players this year and happened to ALL of them last night - Porter Jr is by no means alone, it's a bad defensive team - 29th in the league-

    I just don't see the "elite" here. Tate, you can argue, he's elite, even in the context of this bad defensive team. His stats and his highlights show it. KPJ? Evidence of him being elite doesn't seem to be there.

    Note, I'm not that concerned about it. Getting an elite offensive talentis way more important and allows you to put Nwabas and Tates - who are comparatively easy to find - on the floor to help build a team defensive unit that doesnt' suck.
     
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