What yall think about this? Rockets in: Westbrook, future lakers 1st and future 1st swap Lakers in: John Wall Lakers are desperate right now
Rockets do not have the pieces to land a young prospect like Okoro, Davion, or the majority of the names that have been tossed around. The best piece we can land with the assets we have is a FRP, in all likelihood protected to varying degrees, and maybe a few second rounders. I know trades are a fun exercise to pass the time but we’re not going to get back a meaningful player for Wood or EG…I love EG so am torn on moving him. Part of me wants him to go prosper for a playoff team, but the other part of me wants him in the Rockets org…he has a lot of value to us, and if all we can get back is the likely scenario of a protected or late FRP…I just don’t know. But I do know we won’t get an Okoro, Davion Mitchell, Patrick Williams type asset in return.
You are probably right. I would like to go after Pat Will though, with a combination of players and multiple picks. I think Patrick Williams is a perfect fit for this team and would give up 3 of our hoarded picks (not our own) for him along with Gordan and/or Wood. As long as we hang on to our 2022 and 2023 pick for now, the re-build is in good shape. If our 2022 pick and PW made us competitive next year than our 2023 pick becomes available for trade as well. If the Bulls would require Tate along with Gordan and Wood, I would do that as well.
I'll take anything for Wall at this point, my question is are we even going to play westbrook? I can see him wanting out asap or having a third team involved?
I would love Pat Will too…problem is, CHI absolutely loves him so prying him will not be easy, and I don’t think we have the artillery to really make it happen. Chi doesn’t *need* Wood or really even EG. I think both players could be nice fits for contending teams at the right price, but no contending team will give up those types of assets in all likelihood when they’re trying to win now.
You gotta slow down your negative trade posting. You're giving me too many options to quote on February 10. The Rockets are negotiating from a position of power and have no need to make ANY trades. The Rockets aren't trading Wood for second round picks. I will 100% guarantee that. He most likely has low trade value compared to his value to the Rockets and isn't traded but he sure as hell isn't being moved for less than a FRP. I think he ends up staying and is signed to an extension in the summer. It benefits both sides now. Patrick Williams isn't walking through that door. Not because the Rockets don't have the Assets (they can get almost any available player one way or another, their pick war chest is second in the NBA). They just don't need to use that war chest on less than a superstar because as we saw at the draft, they like to move up using them and neither of those options are available right now. Any move involving Wood starts at a FRP + Any move involving Eric involves a protected FRP. Nwaba, Theis, Augustin : those are the guys you move for less to clear roster spots if wanted.
I do think you’re probably right that we don’t have the assets, but I would offer up some combination of Wood, Gordan, Tate, Nwaba plus 2 or 3 FRP’s and see if they bite. They are in a position to challenge in the East this year.
How exactly are the Rockets in a position of power? We are in last place in the Western Conference and for good reason…our current assets just aren’t that great. I hope you’re right that Wood nets a FRP…I’ll gladly bite my tongue if that happens. I just think, with the other options on the market, combined with his lapses mentally and defensively…I agree he’s probably worth more to HOU than his general value on the market. We’ll see. Things seem to have gotten really toxic between Wood and the org so I would be surprised if we extended him unless it was on a good deal. I’m not trying to be negative, I just think realistically HOU’s assets right now won’t fetch much in the trade market. Wood is talented but has his limits, and I’m just skeptical that a contending team will give a first for him. He’s not exactly reliable or proven, he’s had a few stretches over 3 seasons where he’s been above average offensively, but who appears to have limitations/draw backs. I’ve historically been high on EG, love him as a player and piece to an organization, just don’t think we’ll get a great deal for him. Hope I’m wrong.
You might be right as teams tend to over value picks. Wood is easily more valuable than a late FRP that contenders will have even if they play him as the first big off the bench to keep the starting centers off him. Hard to say if he actually gets traded with how teams value FRPs, though. Wood and Gordon both should be able to net a late FRP. I'm pretty sure Rockets will get a FRP for Gordon as he fits so many teams while Wood likely can't go to an East team besides the Sixers if they want him as a backup.
I think both Wood and Gordan will get us one frp each and I think we will take them even if lottery protected. Wood needs to go, not because he has no value, but because he is a bad fit on this team and hurts the development of guys we need to develop. The only way I would keep Wood is at an extension of about 10m per year and to use off the bench (which he probably would balk at).
There is no doubt Wood is worth more to some contending team than a late FRP. The question is, does that contending team believe they could net more value than Wood with that FRP as part of a package.
Exactly. The Rockets aren't needing to get worse to tank. None of these guys are on expiring contracts. The Rockets aren't in the luxury tax. The Rockets have no large contracts that will run past next season. Theis is the worst contract on this team and he is probably moveable. The Rockets have absolutely no reason to take less than what they perceive to be max value on both Christian Wood and Eric Gordon. Gordon will get traded for a little less to ensure he is on a contender but there are avenues where Wood is here past this existing contract. The Rockets are in control because they Rockets don't need to do anything to stay exactly where they need to be which is at the bottom of the standings.
I agree on Wood.... the Rockets can hold onto him if they need to and try to trade him at a later date. As for Gordon, they need to move him.... he is playing very well so his value is higher and he is winning us games we don't need to win, especially with Portland about to gut their team to lose as many games as possible.
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: -5.2 ppg, -1.6 rpg, and -1.7 apg. Incoming Players Duncan Robinson 27 year old, 6-8, 210 lb F from Michigan 11.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.4 minutes in 2021-2022 Omer Yurtseven 23 year old, 7-0, 265 lb C from Georgetown 6.4 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 15.4 minutes in 2021-2022 Outgoing Players Christian Wood 26 year old, 6-10, 223 lb PF from UNLV 17.5 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 2.1 apg in 30.8 minutes in 2021-2022 D.J. Augustin 34 year old, 6-0, 183 lb G from Texas 5.5 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.0 minutes in 2021-2022
https://heavy.com/sports/los-angeles-lakers/trade-rumors-russell-westbrook-john-wall-rockets/amp/ As much as I HATE Westbrick and was against him the first go around I would do that trade. Westbrick and Wall are basically a wash salary wise. However with WB we can at least hope to salvage some value back since he’ll actually be playing. His current value has got to be the lowest at any point during his career. That means the deal is basically THT, Kendrick Nunn and two 2nd rounders for Gordon. Not a bad haul for a player we have no use for while shedding salary. THT and Nunn are 21 and 26 respectively. They’re young assets we can either play or easily move in separate packages as sweeteners. THT has shown flashes and I always liked Nunn’s game.
Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown Change in Team Outlook: +0.8 ppg, +2.1 rpg, and -1.7 apg. Incoming Players Derrick Jones 24 year old, 6-6, 210 lb SF from UNLV 6.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.5 apg in 17.2 minutes in 2021-2022 Outgoing Players D.J. Augustin 34 year old, 6-0, 183 lb G from Texas 5.5 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.0 minutes in 2021-2022
