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Critical Race Theory.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jiggyfly, May 17, 2021.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    Wrong.
     
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  2. Andre0087

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    What I've gleamed from this article is that some Black and Latinos in Chicago need a driver's ed refresher course...
     
  3. jiggyfly

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    Or those cameras are in more black and brown neighborhoods than others.

    Or we got some racist ass cameras out here.
     
  4. Andre0087

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    They are white after all so it could be the latter...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Probably many factors involved. Urban minority regions probably have worse manged traffic systems and poorly designed roads where traffic incidents are more likely compared to a master planned suburban community. And yes disproportionate amount of cameras is probably another reason.
     
  6. subtomic

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    Nope
     
  7. SamFisher

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    What school district are your kids in, Fairfax or Loudon?
     
  8. ROXTXIA

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    CRT.

    We haven't gotten far from "those uppity n*****s", have we?
     
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  9. subtomic

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    1) I don't have kids
    2) There are more than 2 counties/school districts in VA, most of which contain the kind of voters I've described.
    3) Try harder
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    This was everyone's armchair instant-reaction to the VA gov race, but the data is in, and CRT didn't move the needle.
     
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  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I know you can't help being an ******* even when asking a simple ass question but I linked the official CY Fair summary of the audit a couple of posts before your question

    https://communityimpact.com/houston...aways-from-cy-fair-isds-equity-audit-results/
     
  13. SamFisher

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    Ok, so there we go, you don't have kids in any school, let alone NoVa public schools, and you're just generalizing about vast swathes of people you've never even met based off of, ****, i don't know, a USA Today article or something - and then extrapolating that to the governor's election of a state you don't even live in.

    Well, I have kids in suburban va public schools.

    I can tell you that Critical Race Theory to the extent it's even a thing is not taught in those schools. I can tell you that things like "yeah slavery was bad!" "MLK was good!" and "The Holocaust is a real thing that actually happened and was bad!" are taught in those schoools. I can also tell you that nobody (except, I guess for the real nazi types, who mostly don't live in Northern Va) don't find these things offnsive.

    I can also tell you that literally nobody in this area voted for Biden but then voted for Youngkin because they were upset about critical race theory. People were upset with schools recently, but mostly because they were closed for in person instruction fo almost a year due to the pandemic, which ****ing sucked.

    If you want to tell a broad story about the Va election, Youngkin retained a pretty high percentage of Trump voters (80% or something) meanwhile, Tmac got only 60-something percent of Biden voters. Youth and minoirity turnout was down - as you'd expect in a non presidential year. That combined with thermostatic public opinoin and a sour national outlook = a close Youngkin win.

    Here's a good grassroots analysis, if you care. https://sisterdistrict.com/b/2021-virginia-election-analysis-political-trends/

    That's a boring story, not as exciting as "OMG, CRT backlash narrative!" in suburbs that Mcauliffe won, that OH WHAT A COINCIDENCE BELTWAY MEDIA ARE HIGHLY CONCENTRATED IN - but at the end of the day, Fairfax going 65-35 for Tmac instead of 69-30 is not the problem, it's that Joe Biden took home more votes in Fairfax last year than both candidates combined this year. There's probably 100 or 1000x as many "Biden | didn't vote" voters as there are "Biden -> Youngkin" voters.

    Anyway it doesn't matter now, Youngkin & team have moved onto the real villains of schooling - masks and vaccines.
     
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  14. jiggyfly

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    You want to show me where I am wrong?

    From your link.


    MLC identified three key areas for improvement based on the audit results. The first is that students and staff are not always clear on the district’s commitment to diversity and equity. The district's mission, vision and leadership could more clearly define what equity looks like on a practical level, Mayers said.

    The audit also found CFISD has an inconsistent, piecemeal approach to equity rather than a systemwide focus, Mayers said. MLC received feedback that race and equity are not often discussed or considered in decision-making.

    Finally, Mayers said during the audit, staff called for deeper forms of equity learning and efforts from the district. MLC said CFISD lacks sustained equity capacity building, or "the collective power of an organization or district to engage in and sustain learning and action that further a commitment to equity and equitable access to opportunities."

    MLC pointed to equity offices established in Fort Worth, Houston and Austin ISDs as examples of innovative steps taken in other large school districts to promote equity. These departments feature equity dashboards, equity advisory committees and/or dedicated equity staff positions, Mayers said.

    The board did not take action on any recommendations at the Jan. 10 work session.

    “To ensure that we continue to create a welcoming environment for all stakeholders and meet the needs of all students based on their individual circumstances, we must continue to work diligently to reduce opportunity gaps and enhance an equitable learning environment for all 117,000 students entrusted to our care,” Mayers said.
     
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  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    So you read all that and missed

    Discipline trends show that Black and African American students in CFISD are suspended at elevated rates, and that takes away learning time and limits their academic potential. ... Similar to achievement patterns, this discipline pattern is a districtwide concern consistent across CFISD and has profound consequences for student learning and academic outcomes,” Mayers said.

    Don't waste my God given little precious time

    @FranchiseBlade

    Since you liked the post saying the audit didn't say that
     
  16. jiggyfly

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    You want to show me the part that says they need to fire the white teachers and give their jobs to black teachers?

    Because that's what you said the report said.
     
  17. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I mistakenly said fire white teachers, but either way less jobs for them. This isn't about affirmative action. This is a generalization of white teachers so hire less.

    Don't nit pick because you're wrong about the main ish. Not your boyfriend so don't do that. I don't have time for a relationship type argument. You totally ignored what I said the audit posted after I posted for you.

    So now you gotta something find to be right about. Get a life. I don't have much of one but I don't have time for that childish ****
     
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  18. subtomic

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    Not having kids in school is irrelevant because the kids don't ****ing vote. I don't make any claim to know what the kids think or even what their teachers and school admins think. But I know plenty of parents - here in Houston and around the country. My comments were not limited to VA and perhaps your particular nook falls outside the trends.

    I can totally sympathize with anyone upset about schools being closed because it's a major disruption to everyone's lives. And from what I'm reading, that was also a big factor in voters voting for Youngkin (it was also a factor in the close election in NJ). But I never intended to argue that CRT was the sole issue that pushed Biden voters toward Youngkin - only that the VA race is an example of how GOP messaging on CRT helped swing the race. Which it clearly did - just not all by itself. Did I perhaps state my case too broadly regarding the VA election. OK - guilty.

    Of course CRT isn't taught in school, nor are most people actively trying to remove "slavery=bad" or "MLK=good" from the curriculum. But what many white suburban moderates will do is forgive politicians who enable the removal (or at least the severe neutering) of race topics from school, but will absolutely punish at the polls those who push (or even more often, those who are accused of pushing) for more substantial education on race issues in school.

    And it's been well measured that racial anxiety is often the real reason (with other topics like the economy or law enforcement only used as justification) for whites voting GOP - here's just one example of an article describing this.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...of-white-millennials-voted-for-trump-in-2016/

    So unless voters have suddenly changed their colors in the past year, my main point in my response to bobrek stands. It's not just the "rednecks" who associate any black-focused teaching with CRT - it's also white suburban moderates. Do all white suburban moderates react this way - no, and I made that clear in an earlier post.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I find it funny that people that are against CRT - or what most call it actual history - are mostly in favor of religion or mythology.

    LOL.

    DD
     
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  20. jiggyfly

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    CRT is not actually History per se, and it's stuff like this that fuels the backlash against CRT.

    It's cringe inducing when I see so many do this.
     

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