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Tony buzbee filing lawsuit against Deshaun Watson? Hints at mistreating women

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Nimo, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. HardenVolumeOne

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    so was winston( completed around 65% of his throws , winstons issue was that he never learned to clean up his mechanics till this past offseason when he worked with tom house. The bucs never once tried to fix his issues, they constantly put him in situations where he was making risky throws.

    winston routinely completed 65% of his throws while at FSU, thats roughly the same percentage as herbert when he was at oregon

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jameis-winston-1.html

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/justin-herbert-1.html

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/davis-mills-1.html
     
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  2. raining threes

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    So you're saying Arians/Payton nor Koetter played to Winston's strengths?

    I could buy your post if it was just Arians. Although I think he adjusted his system to Jamies strengths, Why? Because he adjusted to Ben/Manning/Brady/Palmer's strengths. But Payton and Koetter also didn't adjust? Payton adjusted to Brees/Teddy/Hill's strengths but not Jamies strengths? Not buying
     
  3. HardenVolumeOne

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    I just told you Winston was elite this season with his efficiency. 2nd in epa and 2nd in qbr

    with Arians and koetter yes that offense( the air coryell is an outdated offense from the 70’s)

    I can’t look it up by I’m sure Carson Palmer, Peyton manning, Andrew luck and Big Ben all had a career high in picks with Arians as offensive coordinator or coach( at least in their first yr with Arians)
     
  4. raining threes

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    Arians in over a quarter of a century has never had any of the problems you're describing with ANY other QB he's worked with.

    BTW, before you inject Arians and race into the Jamies discussion you might want to checkout Arians coaching staff and his history while he was in college. He was roommates with James Barber (Tiki/Ronde's dad) when he was one of he few players who roomed with a person of the opposite race. Barber and Arians remain close friends today.
     
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    They also won SB's with Arians.

    Palmer probably would've won a SB when the Cards had a really talented team but Palmer tore his ACL.
     
  6. raining threes

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    They certainly didn't lead to wins.
     
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    We will see

    I think he's got a much higher upside than Jamies.
     
  8. HardenVolumeOne

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    if he had a higher upside than winston, he wouldnt have struggled as much as he did.

    Winston was the youngest probowl qb in nfl history
     
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    wins are a team stat
     
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    because antonio brown was the first to call him out.

    Jameis winston never throws his coaches or teammates under the bus, thats always been a gift and curse with him
     
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    This might be the worst football opinion I see the rest of 2022. It would have been worst in 2018 thru 2021 as well, but there's hope something gets worse than this.
     
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    nfl only tolerates black pocket passers if they are mixed like dak, wilson, murray and mahomes

    watson wasnt deemed a threat until he led the nfl in passing yardage after the nfl i believe conspired to trade away hopkins, they thought watson would fall on his face and get exposed, turns out he became even more lethal. They did the same thing with cam after his first year in carolina( after he threw for 4k yards as well) took away rob chudsinski and paired him with andrew luck. Then traded away steve smith. Winston after he started his career off with two 4,000 yard passing seasons. They made up some story about an uber driver, then suspended winston 3 games which couldnt allow him to throw for 4k for a third straight year, winston didnt want to fight it and be a distraction so he settled( in my opinion he should have fought it, it was basically a he said, she said case. Look at how quickly somebody got to that instagram chick when antonio brown had the goods on bruce arians.. Brown accused bruce arians of forcing him to play when he was injured.. and i believe it because he did the same thing with jameis winston in 2019, but they go out and bring up the story about brown letting a chick into the hotel and then im sure paid her handsomely to say that he infected her with COVID. The current nfl personal conduct policy allows nfl players to be extorted very easily. The nfl ignoring the law and suspending players just off an accusation is very dangerous especially when the nfl has mostly black players. An instagram model is more likely to false claim rape on a black nfl player over lets say white nfl athletes like travis kelce and rob gronkcowski ( two player who are known for drinking and partying)

    Bottomline is Deshaun watson aint settling, and he has the money( that he got from his contract with the texans to wait it out) we are seeing history, whenever a black athlete is accused of rape or physical assault they tend to settle and try to move on with their career. Watson is fighting this tooth and nail, and he currently has the resources to do so, all this stalling is doing is keeping watson off the field with the hopes with enough games missed counting this last season he wont be on pace to challenge nfl passing records. They want to keep those passing records all white owned

    Its why they hype the lamar jackson, the jalen hurts, the teddy bridgewaters.. guys with shitty arm talent with no redeemable upside as a passer and giant risks for injury as their running around has a short shelf life. QB's like watson( who is similar to rodgers) and Winston who is similar to big ben.. those are the guys the nfl is scared shitless off, because they win games from the pocket for the most part and they cant use the racist talking point that they get their ability to diagnose coverage from their white half
     
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  15. Htown Legend

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    That’s a hell of a conspiracy theory you got goin on there.
     
  16. HardenVolumeOne

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    i wish what i said was all make-believe, thats the sad part

    if justin fields comes out next year with a new coach, makes a leap and throws for 4,400 yards and lets say 30 tds with only 7 picks.. watch what happens. If fields is smart he will run more than pass, or the nfl will target him and bring him down

    michael vick wasnt even that great of a qb, but because he sold more merch than brady and peyton, they had to put him away. If you read the case. Vick was never personally involved with dog fighting, it was his friends and associates. It just happened on his property, and one of his co-defendants took a deal lied on him to save his own ass, so he took the fall.

    Whats funny is after vick got out of prison he still had the support of the black community, he joined the eagles in 2009 and then finished 2nd in mvp voting to brady in 2010. They were never gonna vote vick mvp over brady.. vick had 31 total tds to only 6 int's.. they only focused on vicks passing stats to make it look like brady deserved the mvp that year
     
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  17. Htown Legend

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    What’s your take on Warren moon?

    Jameis put up some big numbers in TB and he has never been known for being a “runner”. He also threw almost as many interceptions as touchdowns a couple years back- plus, they went and got Brady.

    Are you insinuating that the NFL set up Deshaun with all 22 of his accusers because they didn’t want to see a black man succeed as a “pocket passer”? But if he runs more, they’d be cool with it?

    Donavan McNabb was a pretty efficient pocket passer on some really good Eagles teams.

    Just trying to understand exactly what you’re saying
     
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    warren moon was forced to play in the cfl before he ever got a shot in the nfl. You see back then the nfl could just ignore you, and pretend you didn’t exist if they didn’t like you. In the new age of social media that’s damn near impossible. Bryce young of bama is basically what Charlie ward was at fsu and he never got a serious look at an nfl roster spot

    And yes if Watson ran more, and didn’t lead the nfl in passing yardage he would still be playing( no scandal would have come up). The nfl getting deandre Hopkins away from Watson was a subtle hint they wanted him to run more. Watson in his last season starting, led the nfl in 300 yard games. The nfl doesn’t like that. Winston in 2019 led the nfl in 300 yard games despite throwing the 30 picks. The 30 picks weren’t even a bucs single season record. Eli manning has had 2 separate seasons with 27 picks, Peyton threw 28 before, Favre threw 29 in a season before. All of those 3 guys in the seasons i mentioned had more picks than td passes, and none came close to 5k yards in the year they had that many picks. Winston had 34 total tds and 30 picks and the nfl basically sat him down for 2 years because Winston had the most passing yards and the second most td passes of any age 26 qb in history. Looks like Herbert is on track to break that record though. Can you think of any qb with 2x 4,000 yard seasons and 5k yard season deemed a bust lol. Never. Imagine drew lock or baker mayfield accomplished that by age 26, theyd already have the contract extension

    as for mcnabb, he wasn’t deemed a threat, he was like a poor man’s version of dak Prescott. He ran around a bit and made some things happen similar to dak. They also never gave him a reciever until t.o., and he made the Super Bowl that year. I was one of those who believed the beef they had was started by outside forces who wanted mcnabb and t.o. separated after they lit up the league that year.
     
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    Wait, is this post for real? At first I thought it was snark or an Onion post, but then you posted a reply. Just want to make sure you actually believe what you just posted.
     
  20. HardenVolumeOne

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    the post is for real, I don’t come on the nfl side here to post much. I’m more involved with the nba tbh, the nfl has a lot of issues. The fact that reports are out that deshaun wants to play for Brian flores( makes tons of sense to me) a white coach won’t be sympathetic towards Watson after this scandal and might look to sabotage his career. One bad season is all it takes for a black qb to be a backup qb the next

    remember jacoby Brisett and how he lit up the Texans once as a colt and another as a patriot. He had one year of starting had 20 plus total tds and only 6 picks despite learning a new playbook on the fly and was never heard from again. The colts went and replaced him with Philip rivers and for what
     
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