What's your opinion of John Wall's current ability?

last year John Wall was terrible…I think he can still be a slightly above average player at best just due to his talent, but that’s about it

 

We paying someone $90 million not to play. I think that is a fair assessment of his current abilities.

 

Grade = incomplete

 

Better than Westbrook

 

I believe Wall still has most of his natural ability. His explosiveness was still pretty decent last year and given he's another year from the injury he should be even better. He's never been a great distance shooter, but he wasn't terrible despite the rust he was trying to shake off on a really bad team.

With that said, he's probably best suited as the 3rd option on a good team. The Lakers for example would be much better off with him rather than Westbrook.

What team could he fit best with at this point? The obvious team is the Clippers. Given it looks more likely that Leonard will play this year, they're probably still our best option to make a play for Wall. We need Stone to convince them that Wall is worth taking a shot and then breakup his contract and pass along the other pieces or buy them out.

He's only a negative asset because he's not a max player anymore. Apparently there's interest in Wall, without a buyout possibility Stone has to find a trade that absorbs his massive salary w/o costing us precious assets. I hate to see any player set out, so hopefully John gets a shot to play this year.

 

Haven't seen him play in a while. This thread is moot.

Schrodinger Wall could be anywhere on the spectrum of washed Derrick Rose to recent Derrick Rose resurgence to MVP Derrick Rose. Doubt it's the third one, but y'all know what I mean.

 

I'd have to see him play, and I don't think that's part of the plan.
(assuming there's a plan . . . there must be, right? Right? )

 

I dont understand why he is not playing. KPJ doesnt need starter minutes to evolve and team could use point guard

 

John Wall stays on the sidelines all year - his greatest contribution being his contract keeping the Rockets above the salary cap floor.


There is NO WAY they trade him as there's no single player they bring back who fits their needs.

Any team not named OKC would have to send the Rockets a minimum of $35.44m in salary .... the Rockets have NO Roster Spots so that would have to come in the form of a single contract - Unless you trade someone else and get back fewer players than you send out.
NO, you can't just waive them - they have to be on the roster before you can cut / waive.


Who are you willing to give up out of the young group just to be able to dump Wall .... For me the answer is none of them. Especially when you realize anyone you do bring back is going to take minutes away from the young guys .... No, Wall can be our most expensive cheerleader and salary ballast keeping us just above the cap minimum all year .....

Maybe we can move him in the offseason when rosters expand to 20 and you can break his contract into smaller parts. If not, expect exactly the same situation next season because trading him in season is infinitely more complicated.

 

DGAF.

GTFO with your $90 million and out of the way of the youth movement.

 

I would be surprised if the Rocks went that route, but we'll see. The deadline is starting to get close.

 

What the heck does a rebuilding team want with Bledsoe/Ibaka/MorrisSr? Particularly the 3 years of Morris contract.

I don't see any upside to that trade.

Give up KPJ and KJM to make roster space.
Take on three old dudes one of which has a contract longer than Wall and that are going to demand minutes?

Seem's to me you are better off not making those moves and letting Wall be a $44m cheerleader..

 

Way better than people on CF give him credit for, and most judge him on one season of forcing on his injury comeback year. He's definitely starter quality and by far the best PG we have.

 

JW's classic brand of losing basketball. And, he'll miss half the season. That contract is a facilitating piece to be used at next year's deadline.