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D&D Coronavirus thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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  2. Haymitch

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    It's the 2022 version of Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals, except that it's popular. This is a weird reality. Even as someone who is generally an *******, I can't bring myself to use people's deaths as an opportunity to build my e-clout. That's pathetic and gross.
     
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    You guys never laughed at a Darwin Award recipient?
     
  4. Haymitch

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    It's possible that I did back in my younger days, maybe even when I was in college. But no, I don't laugh at people dying anymore.

    I'm sure someone could make a joke about a death that would make me laugh. But I don't think I'll ever again laugh at someone for dying. That is a bit too cruel for me.
     
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    I'm guessing that you didn't watch the actual interview.
    Because if you had, you would know that she's only talking about Vaccinated people in this clip.
    She's saying it takes a LOT more problems and health issues for COVID to kill a vaccinated person.

    Context matters.

    This is why you are 17X more likely to die of COVID if you are unvaccinated. and 20X more likely to be hospitalized if you are unvaccinated.
     
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    Interesting graphs. I definitely would expect the hospitalizations and deaths to have a huge difference, but surprised the "cases graphs" are still so lop-sided. From my completely anecdotal evidence it seem like the new strain is pretty easily infecting people I know who are fully vaccinated with boosters like it's nothing. I was kind of expecting the cases to be a lot closer between vaccinated and unvaccinated...meaning vaccinated people are contracting it with symptoms pretty easily, but much more rarely having to go the hospital. Is it possible they're only considering fully vaccinated people as those with a booster at a certain date in the graphs? I couldn't access the article.
     
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    I don’t think we should mock people for deaths from COVID but I don’t see anything wrong with pointing out those out as an object lesson. It’s certainly a tragedy to their family and friends and shouldn’t be made light of but noting that their own actions and rhetoric contributed to their deaths I don’t see as ghoulish.
     
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    For public figures, yes I agree. The more public and influential, the more important it is to highlight the folly of their stance.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I have to admit, I'm tired of all the BS. At this point, I don't feel to sorry for people in the hospital that could have been vaccinated and not. That being said, I feel sorry for all their family members and friends that have to worry about them, and all the nurses and doctors that have to deal with effect of their stupidity.
     
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    can we mock AOC for getting covid on vacation?

    AOC Got Sick. She Owes Us An Apology For Being A Bad Person
     
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    You post a lot of terrible articles, but this is one of the dumbest. Summary:

    1. Some random WaPo writer says Gorsuch sucks for not wearing a mask. (indoors at a Supreme Court hearing while sitting next to a bunch of old people in a room where all the non-justices including reporters/lawyers/etc are required to wear N95 masks to help protect the justices)
    2. AOC goes to Florida and is seen not wearing a mask. (outdoors with a bunch of young people)
    3. Therefore, AOC should apologize to everyone.

    How do any of these things relate to each other? What does AOC even have to do with what a WaPo writer thinks?
     
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    The source for the NY data is here: https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-breakthrough-data

    The 'fully vaccinated' people are defined as having 2 doses of Modern or Pfizer or 1 dose of J&J.

    Fully vaccinated people in this data may or may not be boosted. For what it's worth, NY has 35.8% of fully vaccinated people are boosted according to this: https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/states-ranked-by-booster-rates.html
     
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    The article was advocating mocking people for dying, which is what I think is shitty.

    It's fine to point out the errors people made that lead to their premature death. I think this is already done for things like smoking, distracted/drunk driving, and obesity.
     
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    Get ready for the 3 new horror movies coming out soon.

    "Deltacron" (child of delta and omicron. Yes, viruses are screwing each other now)

    "IHU" and "flurona"
    The madness won't stop until we say no more!
     
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    This was initially started due to a bad edit by ABC to shorten a video to “tweet” like delivery. The confusion is understandable. The reaction is typical of our society. The statement that cdc has been hiding this data is conspiracy thinking by the typical folks (including senators).

    The report was released in last week MMWR report (for cases from Dec 2020 through Oct of this year). It takes time to gather data, analyze and release them.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7101a4.htm
    January 7, 2022

    What is added by this report?

    Among 1,228,664 persons who completed primary vaccination during December 2020–October 2021, severe COVID-19–associated outcomes (0.015%) or death (0.0033%) were rare. Risk factors for severe outcomes included age ≥65 years, immunosuppressed, and six other underlying conditions. All persons with severe outcomes had at least one risk factor; 78% of persons who died had at least four.



    What are the implications for public health practice?

    Vaccinated persons who are older, immunosuppressed, or have other underlying conditions should receive targeted interventions including chronic disease management, precautions to reduce exposure, additional primary and booster vaccine doses, and effective pharmaceutical therapy to mitigate risk for severe outcomes. Increasing vaccination coverage is a critical public health priority.
     

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