This. These guys have no semblance of context. We are pretty much starting from scratch after losing Harden. Our situation doesn’t resemble GSW’s pre Curry….
Yeah, I agree, I don't think anyone would disagree with this. I can't speak for anyone else but I'm definitely not rooting for anyone on the rockets to fail. And I am actively rooting for Brooklyn to fail! I don't think it's a moot argument, though, the tanking comes in with things like trading Wood and Gordon. If this franchise trades Wood, Gordon, or both, for draft capital, to me that's tanking. The alternative route would be to take the Brooklyn picks to try to get some more competitive players and maybe get into the play in this year. If the goal is to always win as many games as you can, that's what you would do.
The Warriors were not trying to compete for a title in those years and were trying to accumulate draft picks in the lottery. The Warriors drafted in the lottery for 4 straight years prior to making the playoffs after one season in the playoffs preceded by 12 years out of the playoffs. I do not consider a team with one playoff year out of 17 to be a team trying to compete. They were persistent and it finally paid off. They may not have tanked for a top 3 pick when they got Curry, but I expect the Rockets rebuild to be faster than 17 years.
I already accepted that this team is bad. The difference between me and you is that I'd still rather see them rapidly improve and you want them to continue to be bad for the next draft.
I am all for trading Gordon and Wood for draft capital or promising young players. If we do that we likely will lose even more. That's fine with me. Let's see what happens in the next few weeks.
I guess I prefer to be realistic about our situation. I don’t want them to continue to be bad, but that’s the reality of the situation.
I am fine with them trading anyone, if they upgrade.....I would try to keep a couple for sure in Green and Sengun, but the rest can be traded.....for an upgrade..... DD
Then where’s the disconnect? You seem to understand this team isn’t in a place to compete for anything.
We are in YEAR 1 of a re-build. We are going to lose. It is not intentional. As long as our young players are working hard at getting better, we are not developing a losing culture. That being said, a coach can lose the locker room and there are signs that Wood specifically has given up. KPJ’s body language would suggest that he is dangerously close to blowing up, however, his effort on the defensive end would suggest he is still engaged with the team. We won’t really know what we have with our youngsters until Silas can either figure out rotational fits with the current personnel or Stone works with Silas to bring in players that compliment the youth and the system, if indeed Silas has a system. I personally believe, Wood is the common denominator not in losing, as we should expect, but in the regression or lack of progress with our defense and offensive team work. I really don’t see how Silas can improve our defense with no rim protector and such a short line-up other that Wood.
. Thanks for posting that! Generally agree with the analysis except for him not being able to score at the rim. He is a good finisher at the rim now that he isn't moving at one speed and in one direction with the sole intention of dunking on someone.
Let's follow the Warriors winning culture of making the playoffs once in 17 years. The Rockets will win a championship in 2042 guaranteed
The point I'm making is that they were still TRYING to compete, even though they sucked. At the time they were trying to build around Monta Ellis, it didn't work so they switched to Curry, but they were still attempting to be competitive on the floor. Whatever the **** Silas is doing with no offensive or defensive strategy or structure, it's not trying to compete. That's the difference between tanking and being bad, it's subtle, but it's there. Teams who actively make decisions to play badly and have as bad a record as possible have no history of success in the NBA, that's the point I'm making. I'm not even going to reply to the other guy who keeps trying to twist what I'm saying because he can't actually argue against the point I'm actually making. I'm saying the direction we're currently taking is not trying to play to the best of our ability. We can play to the best of our ability with structure, strategy and direction and still lose the majority of the time we play. That's not what's happening right now, anybody claiming otherwise is not watching us play.
It's year 1 of rebuild. Expecting a team to "try to compete" right after losing their franchise player is quite funny. Folks are so impatient. We still have wall sht ass contact to rid off. We also need to trade Wood asap. The rookies are improving, playing hard. It's the vet kpj and wood that aren't very team friendly
Did I say that I expected them to be good? Are you actually stupid or can you just not read? I'm flat out stating that I expect us to lose damn near every game, the point is about losing the right way, instead of playing with no structure, no strategy, no fundamentals or anything else. I swear, some of you are the stupidest mother****ers I've ever come across with how much you miss the point EVERY SINGLE TIME you quote me. For **** sake.
He's fking experimenting in year 1 of rebuild. There is no losing the right way. The rookies are improving what more could u ask.
"Experimenting." Your entire post here is a joke. You are not a serious person. Don't bother wasting my time by quoting me again.
I accepted that this team is not doing well. But I still want them to improve, specifically guys like Green, Sengun, and Christopher. They do have signs of improving. If they improve rapidly THIS SEASON, which is not totally inconceivable, and we end up winning more games and lower our chances of getting a top pick, I will be happier than seeing them continue to suck. And if we trade veterans like Gordon and Wood for future assets and end up losing more games, it's fine with me too. I just don't want them to throw away good players just to tank. I don't think they will. But some posters here seem to want that.
We can play to the best of our ability with structure Yada Yada bullsht. The moment we let wall sit his ass out, we been experimenting with kpj as a point guard. Hence the disjointed as fk offense, but sure it's all silas fault. Any "normal" coach would have made a tunneled vision player who isn't a point guard become the next harden. Defense? Our only real big refuses to play it and our rookies aren't good at it but they are trying. What do u expect silas 2 do? Honestly u r just being impatient. wait until we have an actual team b4 u go start btching. Losing the right way pfft. When the rookies aren't improving during these Ls that's a coaching issue
