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Joe Biden's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SuraGotMadHops, May 12, 2021.

  1. Amiga

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    Without realizing it, you just posted evidence that you are.
     
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  2. Amiga

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    Trump supporters either claim Trump is like a regular uneducated guy down the street or ignore that he's not up to par with past Presidents. To feel better, Trump supporters as a group project Trump's weaknesses onto others. It's a rationalizing mechanism for justification to support an idiot.
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    Joe Biden’s CDC is a lot like Trump’s. Sad.
     
  4. SuraGotMadHops

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    He's better than the current one.
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    I'm confused. Serious question--how is this an edited video? the official transcript of this press conference at whitehouse.gov provides basically a literal word-for-word account of this section of the press conference:

    So the best way to get something done, if you — if you hold near and dear to you that you like to be able to — anyway —

    I — we’re going to get a lot done. And if we have to — if there’s complete lockdown and chaos as a consequence of the filibuster, then we’ll have to go beyond what I’m talking about.

    Okay. Hang on. Sorry. Oh, Seung Min — Ms. Kim.
    You can find the entire transcript at https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...marks-by-president-biden-in-press-conference/

    So where's the problem? again, that's a serious question. I don't see that this is an "edited video." Am I missing something?
     
  6. IBTL

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    Lol what if they both suck?
    I could offer up reagan kennedy even george Washington and you will still choose orange.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Because it is a selected clip from the conference and not the conference in its entirety. I'm not trying to suggest they doctored the words in that portion of the video. But one clip edited from the conference isn't exactly representative of cognitive ability.
     
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  8. Os Trigonum

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    got it. then the video is simply a clip. it's not "edited." but thanks for the explanation
     
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  9. DaDakota

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    Sure you are kid....sure you are, a lot more accomplished too, right? I am sure you have tons of degrees hanging on the wall, and are changing the world with your business acumen - good on ya ...good on ya....

    You go be that traitor that you were born to be.

    DD
     
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  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Technically a "clip" is edited? You have to edit out what you don't want, no?
     
  11. Os Trigonum

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    a clip is just a clip. an excerpt
     
  12. dmoneybangbang

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    But someone still has to decide what to put or not put into a excerpt, no?

    I won't argue that the media (both sides) doesn't edit clips to make the opposition looks worse, but Trump was an idiot in a way that lowered the bar for the presidency.
     
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  13. Os Trigonum

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    that wasn't the claim being made. it's obvious--abundantly obvious--that it was a clip, an unedited clip. The point is that it wasn't selectively edited (i.e. doctored or rearranged) but instead simply captures verbatim the exact words that were said. Of course it was selected.

    here is an example where someone deceptively edited a clip of Biden remarks and essentially spliced together clips that emphasized the gaps and hesitations of Biden's speaking, and omitted sections or sentence parts that completed full sentences in the original speech:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/biden-video-deceptively-edited-to-make-him-appear-lost/

    It doesn't do anyone any good to claim that an unedited video has been unfairly or dishonestly or fraudulently doctored when there are so many other genuine examples of that kind of thing out there. In this case the NY Post simply put a 30 or so second clip of the President's remarks on YouTube, and the viewer can judge for him or herself what that 30 seconds represents
     
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  14. SuraGotMadHops

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    Wrong. Once again, folks love just assuming everything and making decisions for other people. I put Reagan way ahead of DJT. I wasn't alive during JFK or when America was founded, but I will go out on a limb and say they were better presidents than DJT.
     
  15. VooDooPope

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    The Trump cult would have more credibility in this argument you're having if there weren't hundreds of clips of Trump saying something (or trying to say something) 10 times more idiotic or convoluted than anything "sleepy" Joe ever said.
     
  16. SuraGotMadHops

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    You've been on here a long time amigo, but nobody in any forum has ever considered you one of the smart ones. 1999 - 2022, that is long time to be a moron on Clutchfans.
     
  17. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    He certainly knows more than everyone about stuff


    https://fb.watch/asvzn6vda8/
     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    If only historians would have ranked trump versus other presidents in history... oh wait, they have.

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...t-ever-historians-say-so-20210115-p56u9w.html

    https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article252500648.html


    https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/presidents-ranked-worst-best/
     
  19. rocketsjudoka

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    Also most of the economic numbers are very good. While inflation is a problem we're still seeing a very high stock market, while the jobs report a few days ago wasn't as good as expected the US still added almost 200K jobs for December during a massive Omicron spike. Unemployment is at 3.9% and GDP is still growing at 2.1%. I know in my field and many fields the problem isn't that people can't find jobs but that employers can't hire enough people.

    While the Right and many on the Left (for not getting BBB, voting reform passed, yet) are painting the Biden presidency as a failure consider what has been done in less than a full year of the Biden Presidency and the current Congress:
    1. American Rescue Plan $1.9 COVID Relief Bill.
    2. United States Innovation and Competition Act $110 Billion Act to increase technology infrastructure and help to maintain US edge in R&D.
    3. INVEST in America Act, the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill. $1.2 trillion in new spending on things such as clean water, transit, resiliency to deal with Climate Change.

    Those three things alone are major achievements that in scope and scale make the Biden presidency among the most the successful comparable to the LBJ and FDR and far more than what the last President did even though it was infrastructure week every other week. Perhaps even more impressive was that two of those three were passed with significant bipartisan support.

    The idea that the Biden Presidency has done nothing and is hopelessly partisan isn't supported by the actual record.
     
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