Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

History very strongly suggests if you don't stop this the first time it's way worse the second time.

 

who else is celebrating?

La Fête des Rois - French Cultural Center

 

How many of them attempted to stop the electoral vote count?

Clearly all rioting/violent protests are bad, but trying to stop a Constitutional process so the loser can attempt to invalidate the results is more reprehensible. Any one that refuses to see that needs to pull their head out of their ass.

 

I rarely post anything about Trump, and then only when someone comments to me specifically about Trump specifically. I think he was a clown his whole life, was a clown candidate, was a clown President, and has been a clown ex-President. I hope he doesn't run again and isn't nominated again if he does. Two groups of people are obsessed with Trump: the QAnon weirdos who think he is some sort of savior for some crazy, deranged reason and Democrats. I wish he would fade away into obscurity and we never saw another like him.

 

There was an axios poll that showed that 40% of Americans believe Joe Biden didn't win the election. Various other polls hover around 35-40%.

I know plenty of people in real life that will play lip service about how Trump is silly and how they don't care about him and then also say that the 2020 election was fraudulent.

That is why Trump is relevant. he's convinced at the very least 1/3rd of the country that our voting system is fake news. You think that is sustainable in a healthy Republic? You actually think that?

Also FUxk you! You've spent a total of probably a 100 page novella and months of out of your life defending the Capitol rioters and making light of the rhetoric of Trump and the effects they have.

Your post is meaningless amongst the backdrop of hundreds of our hours defending this person you consider a clown.

 

No...there are plenty of Trump Republicans who do not fall into the QAnon camp who are clearly obsessed with Trump.

 

Ya it's such horeshit. Does @StupidMoniker think that no one on this message board has circles of conservative friends or family? How stupid can he be with such an absurd claim. The majority of people I know personally who defend Trump left and right aren't waiting for JFK Jr to return.

 

https://nypost.com/2022/01/02/trump-leads-gop-in-poll-on-2024-presidential-election/

59% of GOP Voters Say 'Believing' Trump Won 2020 'Important' to Being a Republican
https://www.newsweek.com/59-gop-vot...-2020-important-being-republican-poll-1628281

 

Two-thirds of the Republicans beleive he won the 2020 election.

That is a sizeable percentage of the population.

 

Heu traitor you have video of who ever incited poeple to violently protest and threaten the vp and congress?

 

you should ask those people if Donald Trump won the actual election in terms of the electoral process and vote counts per state.

I dont think you have a solid grasp of wha tthe problem is and why the problem we are refering to isn't sustaible.

Let me make it clear. 1/3rd of a nation state completely giving up on the concept of a voting system not being rigged with inaccurate results is not sustainable.

People rioting over Trump winning aren't rioting because they think our voting system is basically all fraudulent. They just think the nation voted in a psychopath against every single one of their values.

There seems to be a trend if you notice. The left very angry = property damage

The right being very angry = typing manifestos about how the Jews are diluting their nation with ethnic minorities to commit white genocide sprinkled in with Pepe memes on 8chan and then proceeding to do a mass shooting live streaming it with an entire community of right wing edgelords egging him on in the comment section.

 

This whole narrative of both sides claiming the elections are fraud have become quite stale and boring. When someone starts claiming jerrymandering, outdated electoral college voting method and voter id laws, they are basically stating the declared winner is a fraud.

Just because someone says the election system is flawed, even if the views are biased, doesnt make them wingnuts.

 

Please let us know how many in the Democratic party leadership complained constantly that Clinton should be President?

How many participated in an insurrection to delay/overturn the election?

How many times did Clinton contact an election official asking that they 'find' votes in order to further muddy the process?

I'll wait for you to show your research, but why bother? You know the answer.

 

You are not this dumb. I know it. You can type complete sentences.

What was framing of the question. Example: Does a liberal believing the current electoral college system is outdated mean they believe the election was fraudulent? Does a liberal believing that some states create unnecessary hurdles to voting in order to suppress turnout mean they believe the election was fraudulent. Does a liberal believing that gerrymandering is a severe issue in terms of proper representation mean they believe the election was fraudulent. Does a liberal believing that Donald Trump receiving help either unwillingly or through collusion from a foreign power illegally stealing and leaking the private correspondences of his political rival in a clutch manner right before an election while that same foreign power spams disinformation through American owned social media platforms that overwhelmingly spins pro Trump propaganda mean they believe the actual election was fraudulent?

There was no narrative created by Democrats and liberal media that Donald Trump won because the VOTE COUNT WAS FRAUDULENT. There is no sizable contingent of democrats/liberals/leftists etc that believe our vote counting system is fake news or there are millions upon millions of fake ballots.

I hope you have the common sense to understand the difference not only at a surface level but in terms of the actual repercussion differences between the two,

 

Don't both sides this.

Here I'll copy and paste what i typed for commodore.

What was framing of the question? Does a liberal believing the current electoral college system is outdated mean they believe the election was fraudulent? Does a liberal believing that some states create unnecessary hurdles to voting in order to suppress turnout mean they believe the election was fraudulent? Does a liberal believing that gerrymandering is a severe issue in terms of proper representation mean they believe the election was fraudulent? Does a liberal believing that Donald Trump receiving help either unwillingly or through collusion from a foreign power illegally stealing and leaking the private correspondences of his political rival in a clutch manner right before an election while that same foreign power spams disinformation through American owned social media platforms that overwhelmingly spins pro Trump propaganda mean they believe the actual election was fraudulent?

There was no narrative created by Democrats and liberal media that Donald Trump won because the VOTE COUNT WAS FRAUDULENT. There is no sizable contingent of democrats/liberals/leftists etc that believe our vote counting system is fake news or there are millions upon millions of fake ballots.

I hope you have the common sense to understand the difference not only at a surface level but in terms of the actual repercussion differences between the two,

 

Also the various polls have specicif framing of "Do you believe Biden won the election". So when someone answers "no", they aren't answering "Biden won but I have concerns".

The vast majoirty of posters here are moderate to liberal. How many posters here have you seen literally say that Hillary should have won because she won the electoral college and the vote counts in multiple states are off by millions due to a massive conspiracy of fraudulent votes?

 

The GOP tried to litigate dumping MILLIONS of votes from urban black centers like Fulton County which is a desire that if followed through would be a direct violation of their constitutional rights.

Are prominent Democrats trying to dump the votes of millions of rural white folks by claiming they are fake?

I'm sorry but one side here is directly attempting to erase the voting rights of millions of Americans in the most blatant manner.