Hilarious. "I'm not triggered or offended, I just feel he'll suck because he does a few things I don't like." Grow up.
Are you saying that Green has different cultural mannerisms than previous generation superstars? That's crazy man. I also thought that great players of the 90s and 2000s have the exact same culture as the current generation.
I joked and called Green "Manbun Mamba" but my primary gripe early was he was taking too may step back threes instead of using his speed to attack the basket. His game is wired to score but he seemed reluctant, scorers HAVE TO BE thirsty to score. All of the great scorers are wired this way. You have to take some hits doing so. Since coming back he's been attacking more and looking great doing it. Though I joked about his hair my real concern was his mentality. He's getting better every game and deserves credit for it. KPJ is a horse of a different color for me. This kid seems entitled and has acted a fool at USC, the Cavaliers and now with the Rockets. I know he apologized and hit a buzzer beater but at what point do you just accept that he is a knucklehead and move on.? Because his history tells us that there is going to be a next time. It would be one thing if he lashed out at the opposing team when he got angry but to keep going at a GM, a mild mannered HC, and 60 year old coaches in your own locker room is just weak to me. If you want to be a tough guy there are plenty of NBA athletes on the floor to lash out at and most of them are kicking your team's ass on the nightly. If his passion to win is that high, I would love to see him go at the other team. It has nothing to do with his age or what he looks like it's his punk attitude. I would love to see them move on before he spreads it to the other 4 rookies.
I'm glad you make up statements that you find hilarious, keep that internal dialogue going if it amuses you. However, as far as I am concerned, I don't think JGreen will "suck". He may or may not. There is not enough yet to know that. What I think is he won't be able to maximize his talent and lead a team to the promised land if he doesn't grow as a man.
VC only supports JG. He’s a hypocrite. He hates on Sengun but then gets his panties in a twist when someone criticizes Green. He asks for patience in criticism but then criticizes other rookies, does it with the Texans too. He’s just a hypocrite and if you follow who he supports vs who he doesn’t it’s a little weird.
Yes, criticizing a 19 yr old’s personality from an anonymous account on a message board without even an avatar is very "manly." Frankly, I've found that those who worry about the "manliness" of others are projecting.
Fans hate players for all sorts of inane reasons. The point is, they can still be a fan of a team while hating player(s) on that team.
But are there ANY superstars with his mannerisms? Current? It's a very brutal league, I am just skeptical that you can win at basketball without some of what you call "toxic masculinity"...
For a last possession shot with the game tied, ISO is usually called. It is the safest play to time your shot at the last second. A play that involves passing can easily result in turnover or leaving too much time on the clock. Granted, it is usually done by your best scoring guard. In our case, it would either be Green or Gordon. If I were the coach, I probably would have called one of the two. My speculation is that Porter was the best ball handler. It's the safest option.
On cue the original attackers turn themselves into victims when their stance is shown to be faulty and full of fallacy. I am nourished by showing these contributors for what they are. The attack Jalen Green received from that demographic went beyond what this platform has historically stood for in support or criticism of any player. That type of behavior shouldn't be tolerated and/or promoted. "the standard that you walk past is the standard that you accept"
Agreed, they went with the best ball handler to make the call. The best shooters spaced the court and KPJ and Green were at the top. The best defender went with Green, so KPJ made the proper read and got off a good shot. If the better defender stuck with KPJ, then the proper read would have been to get it to Green.
well, I don't read all posts, haven't seen his take on Sengun... But he's been generally supportive of KPJ, Jaygup, haven't really seen him hate, but like I said, I don't read everything...
I feel like late game plays like that is all about hunting mismatches. When we had CP3 and Harden we would screen over and over again to ISO on the worst defender. I rarely see any play calls that involves multiple passes in plays like this. The Wizards were doomed when they chose to switch without a fight. I remember the Warriors used to fight tooth and nail so Curry isn't the one iso'd by Harden or CP in these situations.
Iko on Jalen Green https://theathletic.com/3054022/202...e-got-us-one-baby/?source=user_shared_article Jalen Green was another bright spot, with yet again a display worthy of praise and intrigue. Green, like Wood, led the team in scoring with 22 points, but it was how he got his offense that pleased Silas and should serve the Rockets well. Since returning to the fold, Green’s attention to detail has been perhaps the most noticeable change in his young game. As a downhill type player, his ability to put the ball on the floor and zoom past opponents has never been an issue. But he’s appeared to put on some more muscle and is finding it easier to turn corners and get to his desired spots. “Man, he’s so quick,” Silas said. “He gets to that corner, and it’s over. With him, it’s all about quick decisions. And that’s what I’ve been harping on with him, and he looks good.” After the game, Green talked about the exact reasons why he was able to be effective — Washington’s defensive approach. This should make Silas grin ear to ear. Months back, when the team was putting together a plan for this season, the coaching staff preached a need to take things slowly. That meant keeping things simple on both sides of the ball. Before Wednesday night, I asked Silas about this and his year-to-year assessment, at least offensively with his group. He noted that what the next step for Houston was would be being able to read defenses better and attack from there. Green knew the Wizards would want to protect the middle of the floor and thus went under a lot of screens and played in some drop coverage. Green being able to recognize coverages quickly and make defenses pick their poison is excellent for a 19-year-old still grasping NBA basketball. He’s already shown an ability to understand things and translate them. Defenses are quicker, therefore his shot release needed some speeding up, for instance. If his driving and power are his bread and butter and he can identify when and how to use them effectively, Houston’s rebuild becomes a lot more plausible. But of course, we must talk about the shot — and, in doing so, must talk about Porter. The last time he was in this situation, the Rockets were on the verge of stealing a highly competitive game against the Lakers on the road. Porter’s willingness to step up to the plate that night was apparent, even in a season geared towards the development of Green, the No. 2 pick. In some ways, it was a reminder that Porter’s game also is important, and the faster he can become Houston’s lead ballhandler, the better Green — and Houston — will be. During the final minute of Wednesday’s game, Silas called two timeouts. On both occasions, as the team huddled around Silas and the tablet he procured, Porter’s gaze never left his head coach. “Stay poised and keep my group poised in those moments,” Porter said. “We had a couple moments this year, and we were a little sporadic, not really poised. We haven’t been there. Being able to experience those moments and continue to have them, now we know that we need to stay solid and steady and execute the game plan.” There is a certain relationship that exists between a point guard and a head coach in basketball, much like a football coach and his starting quarterback. There needs to be understanding, trust and confidence. An understanding of the game plan and system, a trust in each other and a confidence in execution. Earlier this week, in the midst of Porter’s outburst, there was an almost-immediate sense of a need for reckoning. The Rockets have stuck by Porter and vice versa, and both benefit from a successful time together. Even if Porter doesn’t finish his career in Houston and retire as a Rocket, him becoming a better basketball player and person is more important than what team his name appears under a box score. Regardless of whether or not the shot Porter took went in, there was enough of a relationship to put the ball in his hands. The Rockets ran a variation of a play Mike D’Antoni used to deploy during the James Harden-Chris Paul heyday, having both Green and Porter involved in action to see which defender to target. Neto ended up being the designated driver, and Porter — as the head of the snake, as he calls it — struck. Porter actually had an off shooting night, missing 10 of his 12 shots until that point. But no one cared. “I probably would have hugged him that way, make or miss,” Silas said. “It was a really good moment, one of the best moments of the year.” “It was a moment for us,” Porter added. “Coach Silas means everything to me, and we mean everything to him. A game like this happens, especially after what we’ve been going through, it’s hugs and love. That’s all you can give. We shared a moment and just gotta keep going and creating that point guard and head coach relationship — so I can be an extension of him on the court.” The Rockets being able to earn a quality win on the road says a lot about their young group and the potential they have at their fingertips. A lot will be made of this week’s events, and honestly, they should — to a certain extent. But both the players and management have indicated it’s more of water under the bridge at this point, and all want the best for each other and themselves. This season is about growth, and the only way to grow is to be a united front. There’s strength in numbers, and this should be used as a jump-off to propel them into the second half of the season that is quickly approaching. “Tonight was the perfect example of being together and on the same page,” Green said. “We’re talking to each other; just the vibe on the court out there felt good. We’re all trying to play for each other, trying to help each other out. Just gotta keep it going.”
Can you hate the teams players and coaches and still be a fan of the team? First, let's separate sports hate from real hate. Of they are some real life scum then they can and deserve to be hated and I don't want guys like that on my squad. Period. Now back to the more common sports hate...imo, it's perfectly fine to sports hate a player or coach on your own team. After all, if you truly believe that person to be a detriment to your favorite teams success, why would you want them around? I'm not a fan of kpj at pg....I go back and forth on Silas, but overall I am not impressed. But just like yesterday some doofus goes into the kpj thread and is like you kpj haters can suck it he hit a game winning shot.... Like for me personally, that doesn't mean anything on any level 1) he had an overall bad game 2) kpj doing good things actually makes me happy I just don't have faith that he will as a pg. Same goes for Silas or any other player or coach I criticize and speak out against. I'm a Rockets fan so I want people who I believe are detriments to success gone asap. But if those people prove me wrong I'm not going to silk and hide and continue to sports hate them. I'll be happy they proved me wrong and are contributing to the Rockets success. I think the issue that a lot of people have is they are so consumed with being right. That's why so many arguments happen. People just want to be right despite what is happening or despite what the evidence shows.
