What will it take to make you seriously consider an EV?

Random question for EV owners. How do you guys take road trips in more wilderness area. I personally don't own a car because I live in a walkable/bikable city.

But I went on a road trip to a more mountainous area in his Tesla. On the way back we had to go in the opposite direction to a random town to charge his car, but the only 2 super chargers were taken, so we sat there for hours watching netflix while it was being charged.

The area we went to wasn't even that remote, I can't imagine if I wanted to actually venture further to less populated places with an EV.

 

The guy above that said it will be gobbled up by big auto in 10 years, I know it is tough to read when you only see what you want to see.

Also you, posting all that fud about Tesla losing to competition in Europe and China. What point were you trying to prove and how did it work out for you?

 

I never said foreign countries will cede their entire auto market to Tesla. I never said Tesla will drive all the other automakers bankrupt(though a few will certainly go under).

I've said all along that in the long run Tesla will have a 20% market share, leaving 80% for the competition. Yes the competition!

However, what I have pushed back on from that jiggyfly and you is the notion that competition is here TODAY and that it is crushing, or even impacting at all Tesla. Or as you say they will get gobbled up in 10 years (lol).

The results definitively show that Tesla is the one eating into the competition so far. One day that will change as the entire EV industry matures and grows, and Tesla will settle into a 20% market share, as it largest automaker and largest company in the world. But that day is not today and the competition is still nowhere to be seen.

 

Coming off lower numbers. Tesla is going to surpass BMW in total sales next year. Daimler in 2023. It will already generate more profit(or very close to) than Ford and GM this quarter, right now. While those two companies lose sales at a -30% rate and Tesla grows 87% year over year.

 

Do you even read the sht you post?

Wuling? Do you know what that is? Its a $5000 micro car that shouldn't even qualify as a car. So when you compare unit sales vs something like that of course their market share is going to go down. Also wall st analysts, the same ones that have gotten tsla wrong for the last 10 years? Why don't you ask for the projections of someone who has actually gotten them right the last 10 years, me!

I see you are back to posting FUD and disinformation!

 

Losing market share indeed!

 

I said Tesla will surpass BMW in total sales next year, so 2023, although it could be as soon as 2022. Daimler gets passed up in 2023. Talking about sales.

What is growing at 87%? Tesla sales lol. 934k 2021 vs 499k 2020. 2022 will be 1.5-2m.

But but but...losing market share!

 

It's a chicken and egg thing. Need more cars to get more charging stations, need more charging stations to get more cars.

You definitely have to put a bit thought into a long trip. If you're going to spend a lot of time off the interstates in Nevada, you might not take an EV right now. That triangle between Klamath Falls, Sparks, and Winnemucca is about as remote as you can get in the lower 48, but still within a good EV's range in decent weather assuming you're just driving through.

 

I am objectively and subjectively comparing. I value certain driving dynamics. You won't ever understand it because you fail to see that humans like different things.
Yes, there's brand loyalty. Same thing you are displaying with your Tesla loyalty. The issue is you fail to see why others can be loyal to another brand. It's not just about OBJECTIVES.

Yup a taycan is an electric and I am not getting a electric sports car just yet. So yup, continuing to shift for now. thanks though for looking out. I had no idea.

As great as the iphones are, they still only have a 47% US Marketshare. This is one object that even the richest don't have much options for and even then half the population chooses something else. I wouldn't get an android but I don't go around and call people blind and idiots for choosing a samsung or google pixel.

in the US about 3.5-4 million cars are sold per month. Tesla is selling maybe 80-100K a month. It's still anyones market for the taking..and if tesla happens to take a good chunk of it, good for them! I am not going to shi~ on anyone for not choosing tesla.

 

There is no android to Tesla's iPhone right now. That's the point I'm making. In the future, Tesla will only have 20% market share, people will have many choices and preferences as the entire EV market grows from sub 10% today to 100% one day. But TODAY, there is no competition. I like the vw Id series and hyndai ones, they are nice little cars, but no one is clamoring for them. Tesla is a phenom.

Also you proved my point. You wouldn't get a Taycan, or any EV. So someone who is not in the market for EVs would rather have a Taycan than a Tesla! Lol. My bad for assuming you can't afford the Taycan, let me rephrase. If you were actually in the market for an EV, or Taycan, you would actually cross shop it and be more objective. It's easy to say you would have one over the other when you don't want either!

 

Wuling is the top selling "ev" in China and holds the largest market share. Does it matter? It's practically a bike and costs about the same.

Tesla December China sales come out in a few days, I'll be sure to bump. Hint, it was explosive. But but...market share

 

Why do you keep ignoring this



Tesla is eating the industry

 

Do you know how market share works?

If company A sells 1000 widgets a year, and company B sells 0 widgets a year, then the next year company A grew 100% to 2000 widgets a year, and company B sold 1 widget. Guess what? Company A lost market share.

Whats your point? Tesla is crushing the competition, it's the one with 1000 widgets and growing 100%.

 

My next car will be an X5. Because I want people to think I am cool, but I still have things to haul.

(not really, I’ll buy whatever US News posts as top rated small/mid suv when it’s time to buy again)

I liked the Mustang MACH-E but I haven’t seen them out. Only EV I regularly see are Teslas.

I want my car to be reliable, safe, and easy to repair.